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Last post by Cyrus Ireri - Today at 07:27:07 AM
I have always desired to create a timetable that will accommodate sessions taught on weekdays and weekends. The timing is different. I wish teachers to have min 1 session between Mon and Fri and 2 sessions on Saturdays. Can that happen if we have a constraint that has min and max hours daily between intervals? I have attached a file.
It would be great to have a way out so that i don't always create two timetables
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Last post by Liviu Lalescu - April 19, 2024, 07:38:51 PM
You are welcome!

1. If you want 5A and 5B to be on the same floor, hmm... I see no solution using buildings constraint, because all building constraints operate only on each individual subgroup (if you add such a constraint for a group/year, it will be propagated to all its constituent subgroups, but act individually). Maybe I was wrong suggesting buildings constraint, but please also think yourself. Maybe that second approach with the customization would be needed.

2. OK.

3. Yes, and you can create additional groups "5A boys" to comprise all the boys from 5A. 5A and "5A boys" will overlap. You can use the feature to add an existing subgroup in a group with a double click: you add it with text initially in 5A, then with a double click in "5A boys". In an activity you can add more subgroups or this group.
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Last post by Brian Warner - April 19, 2024, 07:23:12 PM
OK.  Thanks...

1.  Yes, in general they are separated by floors so I will call each floor a building and try this and let you know.

2.  OK.  I will try this.

3.  So you are saying since we have Year=Grade 5, Group=5A, 5B, we can create subgroups that are each student, right?
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Last post by Liviu Lalescu - April 19, 2024, 06:30:39 PM
Thank you for your kind words!

1. This seems tough or very tough. Maybe an idea would be to put similar rooms in a single building and use building changes constraints. But I am not sure it will work. The only other alternative I see would be a new constraint type, in a custom version. I think it is a research problem, by which I mean a problem which is not routine and which might or not have a solution, and which is difficult. Maybe if you show us/me more details with examples I can make myself a better idea.

2. This is easy. In FET, if you don't constrain an activity to a room by preferred or home room(s), this activity will remain in an unspecified room. So, you could add an activity tag "AT anywhere" and preferred rooms for this tag in all your rooms.

3. In FET, you have years and groups, which can be overlapping, and subgroups, which are independent. You can define a subgroup = a real life student, and use in an activity either a year or more, or a group or more, or a subgroup or more, or a combination of these. You can create two groups to contain overlapping subgroups, if needed.
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Last post by Brian Warner - April 19, 2024, 05:51:54 PM
Excellent!  That worked.  We will make this change for all the other grades.

A few more unrelated questions that should get us going through the weekend to wrap this initial phase up:

1. How do I setup a Space Constraints to generally group our kids by age.  For example we typically have our 5th and 6th graders in close rooms, 7th-8th close together, 9-10 close together and 11-12 together. 

2.  We have created some constraints for science classes with labs, but outside of that have no constraints.  With no constraints like we want to introduce in #1 above, won't the system just assign the rooms?  Right now the only thing that shows in the schedule by room are the rooms with the hard constraints (science labs).

3.  We do not see a way to introduce actual student names to assign them into classes?  Do you have this capability so we can generate actual class schedules?  Also, we would want a way to mix up the students a little so they would not necessarily all follow 5A people around all day.

Thanks in advance for all of your help!  This product is really good!
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Last post by Liviu Lalescu - April 19, 2024, 04:42:30 PM
You are welcome!

I think you added both 5A and 5B to the same activity. You need to add two activities, one for 5A with its teacher and one for 5B with its teacher.

You might want to send me your fet file so I can have a look.
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Last post by Brian Warner - April 19, 2024, 04:23:27 PM
Thanks for your help all along with this, but I think we are missing some important concepts.  We were pulled off for another project, but now we are back on this.  We have grades 5-12 in this school and have roughly 40 kids per grade with half the students coming on Mon/Wed and the other half on Tues/Thurs.  For now with suggestions above we are only scheduling the Tues/Thurs classes and will replicate to Mon/Wed.  Effectively we are scheduling 20 kids per grade since our schedule is only for those 2 days.

Our optimal class size is 10 students so we created a 5A and 5B class thinking this is the way to do this.  We thought all was running smoothly, but when we look at Grade 5 students with days horizontal we get

We have blurred out the teacher names, but as you can see we have the same teacher for 5A, 5B during the same period.  What are we doing wrong in the setup to force 2 different class periods for 5A and 5B?

General Stuff / Re: Other educational tools
Last post by Volker Dirr - April 18, 2024, 08:39:10 PM
Many guys call something like that "school administration software".

General Stuff / Other educational tools
Last post by TAHIR - April 18, 2024, 03:08:47 PM
Is there any software available  like FET , for students fee submission record maintenance, students report cards or sms to students?
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Last post by Volker Dirr - April 15, 2024, 07:38:58 PM
There are at least 3 variants possible:

a) add a pseudo division. So maybe add 'students' called "PSEUDO" or "-" or something like that. Since in fact there are no pseudo students, there is no student that need to care about that activity, but you can now just place the planning teacher into an activity with that students set. So he will be always in parallel  and you can just give him also a prefered own room.


b) Use a virtual room. So for example if you have art room "Art room", then maybe add a virtual art room called "Art room " (with space at the end!) So nobody will see that extra space. But now you can use the virtual room feature to just set subject prefered room art into the virtual room and in this virtual room you add the correct art room and also the class room. So that activity in fact always blocks the class room.


c) just add a constaint same starting time for that teacher and set a room constraint for that activity.