Activites in a Sequence

[bharatstank]

Hello,

I have below created a Student structure (having 60 students):-

(Student) Year - Group - Sub Group

Year                    Group                    Sub Group
MBACPM (60)       MBA CPM L (60)     MBACPM G1 (30)
                                                       MBACPM G2 (30)
Activity Tags:
Lecture
Tutorial
Practical

Activities created are as follows:-
1. MBA CPM L (Lecture) of a SUBJECT1 for 2 hours duration is conducted by a FACULTY1 for all the 60 students
2. MBA CPM G1 (Tutorial) of a SAME SUBJECT1 for 2 hours is conducted by SAME FACULTY1 for 30 students
3. MBA CPM G2 (Tutorial) of a SAME SUBJECT1 for 2 hours is conducted by SAME FACULTY1 for 30 students
4. MBA CPM G1 (Practical) of a SAME SUBJECT1 for 2 hours is conducted by SAME FACULTY1 for 30 students
5. MBA CPM G2 (Practical) of a SAME SUBJECT1 for 2 hours is conducted by SAME FACULTY1 for 30 students

6. MBA CPM L (Lecture) of a SUBJECT2 for 2 hours duration is conducted by a FACULTY2 for all the 60 students
7. MBA CPM G1 (Tutorial) of a SAME SUBJECT2 for 2 hours is conducted by SAME FACULTY2 for 30 students
8. MBA CPM G2 (Tutorial) of a SAME SUBJECT2 for 2 hours is conducted by SAME FACULTY2 for 30 students
9. MBA CPM G1 (Practical) of a SAME SUBJECT2 for 2 hours is conducted by SAME FACULTY2 for 30 students
10. MBA CPM G2 (Practical) of a SAME SUBJECT2 for 2 hours is conducted by SAME FACULTY2 for 30 students

and so on...

How to place the activities - so that:-
1. For Subject1 - Lecture followed by Tutorial followed by Practical is conducted in sequence in a day and FET do NOT place tutorial or practical before Lecture

I want to use this process as a template for every subject (Lecture -> Tutorial -> Practical). So that FET places all the possible activities according to this template.  and constraints are only applied in case of specific activities or exceptions.

How to achieve this scenario.
Looking forward to your reply

Thanks in advance

Regards
Bharat Tank


   

[bharatstank]

Hi Volker & Liviu,

Request you to share your thoughts, please reply

Thanks
Bharat Tank

[Liviu Lalescu]

I am not sure I understand well, but I think you can use a constraint three activities grouped and two constraints two activities ordered.

[bharatstank]

Hi Liviu,

Thanks for your reply, using "constraint three activities grouped and two constraints two activities ordered." - here I need to create manual constraints for all the approx. 200 activities.

is there a way - where I can create a Standardised constraints using Activity Tag.
I have defined 3 activity tag (which needs to follow the below sequence):-
1. Lecture
2. Tutorial
3 Practical

As per the guideline - for subject1 - First lecture is conducted, Then its Tutorial is conducted and then its Practical is conducted.

In my case FET does not places activity like (Subject1 lecture -> Subject1 Tutorial -> Subject1 Practical) in sequence but most of the time it places the activity like (Subject1 Lecture -> Subject2 Tutorial -> Subject3 Practical or vice versa)

how to resolve this issue.
I have also attached the timetable screenshot:-

1. Correctly placed activity shown in Green circle
2. Wrongly placed activity shown in Red Circle


Here it is not important that Subject1 (lecture, Tutorial, Practical) should be consecutive but has to follow activity tag order (for a particular subject). otherwise timetable starts with Tutorial or Practical without Lecture - which is not feasible.

Thanks for your support
Bharat Tank

[Liviu Lalescu]

I do not understand the picture in your attachment.

If it is not important that the three kinds of activities are grouped, you might need to add only two constraints two activities ordered. You might want to add also a constraint activities same starting day.

About making this automatic for activity tags - I have added this in the TODO list.

[Volker Dirr]

In my opinion caring about the order over different days is vain endeavor. Why? Because the oder will mix again very fast as soon as:
- a teacher is ill
- official holiday
- floating holiday
- public holiday
- teacher or students do a schooltrip
- students are ill
- ...

So in real life the order will mix up after a few weeks, even if you ordered it at the beginning.
If you don't order it, there will be max a "problem" in the first week, but i don't think it is, because you can also talk about an overview or check the previous knowledge.

So in my opinion only ordering over a single day is (maybe) usefull. but of course this might be to strict/difficult.

[bharatstank]

Thank you for reply.
As suggested will work with constraints where ever it is mandatory to have it.

Thanks again
Bharat Tank

[Volker Dirr]

Even if i don't like it (see above) you can try
FET -> Data -> Time constraints -> Actvities -> others (2) -> Two activities are ordered
FET -> Data -> Time constraints -> Actvities -> others (2) -> Two sets of activities are ordered
FET -> Data -> Time constraints -> Actvities -> others (2) -> Two activities are ordered if they are on the same day