Consecutive if same day span over a break?

Started by Liviu Lalescu, July 25, 2016, 11:36:08 AM

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Should consecutive if same day span over a break?

No, keep it as it is now: span over break disallowed.
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Yes, change it: span over break is allowed.
12 (85.7%)
I don't know/I don't use breaks.
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Liviu Lalescu

There is a small misunderstanding. Say you have a single (sub)activity with duration d. FET will not split it, not even if I make this topic's implementation. A single (sub)activity is a thing, two (sub)activities are another thing. And in this topic it is about the constraint min days between activities, which will only place maximum two (sub)activities if they are on the same day with consecutive if same day = true.

A simple solution is to not use breaks at all. Just consider them invisible.

In addition to Volker's described problems, I saw a timetable in which the break was very large (between morning and evening). So it might be weird to allow two (sub)activities to span over this large break.

Please let me know.

Devrim Altınkurt

Quote from: Volker Dirr on October 17, 2016, 02:53:57 PM
one problem might be that it will have got a negative effect on their lessons/timetables.

for example if a school has got 2+2 hours activities with weight less then 100%.
in that case they might get a 1+break+3 hour, even they don't like that. especialy if that are schools with 1 fet hour = 30 minutes only. such a single 30 minutes hour will be useless for them.

or schools with even 15 minutes = 1 FET hour might get even more into trouble now. such 15 minutes efore of after a break. nearly nonsense for such schools.

maybe you can add a new constraint like:
"activity can be seperated by break"

an idea:
if you add a checkbox to add/modify activity form
and if split=2 then this checkbox can be enable.

and than, if this checkbox is selected two split of act can be place on some day.

Liviu Lalescu

Quote from: Devrim Altınkurt on October 17, 2016, 03:18:18 PM
maybe you can add a new constraint like:
"activity can be seperated by break"

an idea:
if you add a checkbox to add/modify activity form
and if split=2 then this checkbox can be enable.

and than, if this checkbox is selected two split of act can be place on some day.

I am not sure I understand correctly.

It would be very difficult to allow a (sub)activity to span over a break (a single (sub)activity!). But I can add this in the TODO.

About two (sub)activities, it is easy to allow them to span over a break. But I am not convinced it is best for the official FET.

Let me know further clarification, so I know what to add in the TODO.

Also, I can think of making a custom version just for you, with these facilities. But to allow FET to divide a single (sub)activity over a break looks very difficult, a lot of code might need to change, because it is a fundamental change.

Devrim Altınkurt

Quote from: Liviu Lalescu on October 17, 2016, 03:36:47 PM
Quote from: Devrim Altınkurt on October 17, 2016, 03:18:18 PM
maybe you can add a new constraint like:
"activity can be seperated by break"

an idea:
if you add a checkbox to add/modify activity form
and if split=2 then this checkbox can be enable.

and than, if this checkbox is selected two split of act can be place on some day.

I am not sure I understand correctly.

It would be very difficult to allow a (sub)activity to span over a break (a single (sub)activity!). But I can add this in the TODO.

About two (sub)activities, it is easy to allow them to span over a break. But I am not convinced it is best for the official FET.

Let me know further clarification, so I know what to add in the TODO.

Also, I can think of making a custom version just for you, with these facilities. But to allow FET to divide a single (sub)activity over a break looks very difficult, a lot of code might need to change, because it is a fundamental change.

i think, maybe you can think about only place AN ACTIVITY (not two acts / subacts) over a break.
i know it is diffucult problem. but i know there are another schools which want you do this in Turkey.
maybe you add an option ([ X ] can place over a break) for each activity (not subacts)
and the users can choice if the lesson place like this or not.

Liviu Lalescu


Nagendra

Is possible to allow an activity of 3 hours (not split) to span over the break?

I know this can be done by splitting it into two/three and then adding a consecutive/group constraint. But I prefer it directly.

Liviu Lalescu

Quote from: Nagendra on June 11, 2019, 01:31:43 PM
Is possible to allow an activity of 3 hours (not split) to span over the break?

I know this can be done by splitting it into two/three and then adding a consecutive/group constraint. But I prefer it directly.

Definitely not :(

It would mean to change much of the structure of the FET internal data and the generate code, which is very tricky.