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Title: teachers preferred rooms without Repetition per week
Post by: Silver on October 31, 2011, 06:14:47 PM
how i can add "teachers preferred rooms without Repetition per week" in the space constraints?
how i can add "teacher preferred rooms without Repetition per week" in the space constraints?
Title: Re: teachers preferred rooms without Repetition per week
Post by: Liviu Lalescu on November 01, 2011, 05:34:01 AM
I am not sure I understand.

If you want all rooms of the teachers in a week to be different, this may be possible. But I don't see why.

If this is useful, I'll add in the TODO (but I cannot implement it too soon). But give me the reason, please.
Title: Re: teachers preferred rooms without Repetition per week
Post by: Silver on November 01, 2011, 08:23:04 AM
If you want all rooms of the teachers in a week to be different.
yes

give me the reason
this option for examinatin timetable.

please see the attachment file.

regards
Title: Re: teachers preferred rooms without Repetition per week
Post by: Volker Dirr on November 01, 2011, 11:40:40 AM
Hallo Silver,

i can see your dataset, but i still don't understand why that is needed.
isn't it better if the teacher is always in the same room, because he don't need to change the room. that save time/walking and also reduce the chance that he go to an incorrect room.
so why different rooms?
Title: Re: teachers preferred rooms without Repetition per week
Post by: Silver on November 01, 2011, 12:26:01 PM
Quote from: Volker Dirr on November 01, 2011, 11:40:40 AM
Hallo Silver,

i can see your dataset, but i still don't understand why that is needed.
isn't it better if the teacher is always in the same room, because he don't need to change the room. that save time/walking and also reduce the chance that he go to an incorrect room.
so why different rooms?
this constrain for examination timetable
In tests, the teacher stand for 2-3 hours and watching 40 students, and this causes:
1 - boring for the teacher. :o
2 - tension of the student. >:(
This is preferred to change the classroom constantly monitored by a teacher.
Title: Re: teachers preferred rooms without Repetition per week
Post by: Volker Dirr on November 01, 2011, 04:02:00 PM
hmmm...
we always try NOT to change the room.
in my optinion your points are not very good.

about your first one (tension of the student)
in my opinion it is very annoying if the teachers change the room, because:
- if the teacher come in/go out, then that interrupt the students mind (specialy if the teachers talk to each other or if some students welcome/talk to the new teacher.
- also teachers don't need to inform about special thinks like "that guy went to toielett and is not back yet" or "that guy already start with part 2 of examination", ...
- also you don't need to care how about "guarding" the studnets while teachers change the rooms.
- we also try to set a teacher in the examinations that knows the subjects and students, because there might be a missspelling or something might not readable (because of a bad copy). so there should be a teacher that can answer that.
- in my optinion is is much more "tension" for a students if there is every hour a new teacher.

about "boring for the teacher". in my optinion it annoy me if i need to change the room. i have much more work/walk/talk/... .
it is much more relaxing if i don't need to change the room. more relaxing for me and for the students.

did you ask the teachers at your school. do the most of them want to change rooms? (at your school nearly all teachers don't want to change the rooms. )
Title: Re: teachers preferred rooms without Repetition per week
Post by: Silver on November 01, 2011, 06:32:26 PM
Sorry,(i am) probably a mistake in choosing the right word.
in my country (In the days of school tests ):
- 2 Structured Study at school (2 activity in the day for every room).
- every activity (from 90-180 min).
- after the first activity (test) there are Period of rest for 30 minutes.
i want to change the teacher After the end of the first test and not during the first test.
Title: Re: teachers preferred rooms without Repetition per week
Post by: Liviu Lalescu on November 01, 2011, 06:43:41 PM
OK, I will add this in the TODO.
Title: Re: teachers preferred rooms without Repetition per week
Post by: Volker Dirr on November 02, 2011, 12:23:38 AM
ah. ok. there are so many different school systems. sometimes i just think about ours and forget that there are also others.
Title: Re: teachers preferred rooms without Repetition per week
Post by: Silver on November 03, 2011, 10:07:13 PM
thanks   ;D