I am a teacher of sepcial ed class. the timetables are personal for each student (subgroup)
I have a regular activitis for everyone, but on top of that few of the students go out to participate in other activity (another class). each student has it's own hours and activities he goes to.
I wanted to let FET know that by setting a time constraint "not available"for the specific students on those hours so i could generate personal timetables and give the students each his own, but FET does not produce timetable because it identifies student is set to more hours of activity then he actually can be in.
Any other way to set this?
Hagai
Maybe you can show us an example of the real world timetable, and attach your .fet file, if it is not private (or anonymize it).
More details could help us understand.
Hi,
I managed to create my 2 classes table (group יב and group י-יא).
now the problem:
I have some students from the group יב and from the group י-יא that need to be placed also in another class at the same time,
(they are included in few subject matters in other regular classes in school) and those classes get higher priority then the class that is going on in the home special education class.
I wrote down names of students as groups, but they really shoul be concidered as sub-groups of יב and י-יא.
If I could get that done, I'd like to try to create the homeclass timetable in a way that the important subject matters (תקשוב א and תקשוב ב+ג) are set not at the same times that those students are included in other classes.
hope my explanation is clear enough...
yours,
Hagai
p.s. I included the fet file which has the home timetable OK, and i'd like to know how to proceed with those students that are included in known periods of time in other classes.
Do you need the constraint activities not overlapping?
I am not sure what u mean in your question.
I have "base" time table for the 2 classes, and I wnat to put on top of it few overlapping hours that few of the students go to another class. the Fet file i attached just reflects the base time table and not the overlapping hours.
I'd like to create personal timetables for each of the students that reflect the basic timetable and the special hours that they have to go to another class in the middle of the school day.
right now if I try to add those hours, the program refuses to create timetable because I am inputting more hours for the student then there are in the school week.
it doesn't handle the fact that this student has 2 optional classes on same time, and the outside class is preffured for him.
I'll be greatful for your guidans.
Hagai
Add in the students groups two subgroups. A subgroup will have some activities, the other subgroup will have the additional activities, without conflict.
Thanks for the answer, just want to be sure I understood. If i make 2 subgoups i will be able to use the base class timetable for one subgoup but not for the other group, right? if so it will not do the work.
I have 4 students from the first class (י-יא) and 6 students from the second class (יב) that have some hours when they leave for another activity outside of my classes, but each student has it's own special activities and different times they leave.
I can block those hours from the student timetabe (if i put him as a subgroup), but i still want him to have the other hours from the base timetable of his class.
I tried so far 2 options that failed:
1. If I I create group for each of the students and another group for the base timetable I could produce either base timetable for the goup class or timetable for the special hours for the group student - couldn't combine them.
2.If I try to create group of the base class and subgroups for a students with those special hours, the system complained that I'm trying to put the students in more hours then exist in the week. is there a cnstraint that a student can't be in 2 classes at the same time?
I need it to use the base timetable and to override only on those few hours (for each student different hours) that the students go out.
I can make subgroup for each student that goes out but how can I tell the system to override the base timetable for those hours?
yours,
Hagai
I am sorry, but I do not understand. Other users of the forum, please try to see this question.
The years contain groups which contain subgroups. Subgroups are independent and not overlapping. A subgroup can have a single activity at a single time slot.
I might re-read this topic later.
Hi,
I apologize for not being clear enough.
basically the student timetbale is a mix of the "homeclass" timetable and few specific hours in another special class on top of it. the specific hours override the "homeclass" hour. Each student has different times of these special classes. I wanted to give each student his own personal timetable.
Yours,
Hagai
it looks like you setup the students structure incorrect.
if you use a "correct" students structre (years-groups-subgroups), then it is very easy:
just print the subgroups timetables and give that to the students. he will only see his activities. not other activities.
i recommend to read chapter "Years, groups, subgroups" ( http://www.timetabling.de/manual/FET-manual.en.html#id_12 )
Please also read the FET help once again.
If you still fail, then explain your students structre and upload that fet file here.