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Title: Create classrooms for multigrade classes
Post by: ngoctp29121982 on March 08, 2024, 02:20:24 PM
I have classes 10A1,10A2,10A3,10A4,10A5....
Common classes in Math and Literature are taught by different teachers.
Classes have groups of students, for example, 10A1, 10A2, 10A3 have group 1 studying chemistry and group 2 studying English, 1 group studying Physics, 1 group studying History.
Create new classes 10EN, 10PS, 10CH, 10HS
So how to create classrooms for classes 10EN, 10PS, 10CH, 10HS, so that students can still study in classes 10A1, 10A2, 10A3?
Title: Re: Create classrooms for multigrade classes
Post by: Volker Dirr on March 08, 2024, 05:09:10 PM
You can add home room constraints for the same room.

So add a students home room constraint for students 10A1, for example room R1.
Then just add a second home room constraint for students 10E and set the same room R1.

Do it similar with 10A2 and 10PS and add 2 home room constraints with an other room R2.

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Title: Re: Create classrooms for multigrade classes
Post by: ngoctp29121982 on March 09, 2024, 02:42:43 PM
sorry I don't understand, can you get an example file?
Title: Re: Create classrooms for multigrade classes
Post by: Liviu Lalescu on March 09, 2024, 05:01:09 PM
ngo contacted me on Facebook and asked me to answer here.

I am sorry, ngo, but I cannot give you an example file for Volker's idea, I am not sure I understood his suggestion, but I hope he might give an example.

Please try to see examples and read the help for dividing students by categories or using years/groups/subgroups. Maybe you can create subgroups and add groups in years and in the groups add existing subgroups. I already tried to explain you, I am sorry, I cannot explain better.

Other users, please try to help ngo with advice/explanations!!!
Title: Re: Create classrooms for multigrade classes
Post by: ngoctp29121982 on March 09, 2024, 05:20:00 PM
Thank you!
If I have 4 classes 10A1,10A2,10A3,10A4,10A4,10A5
there are subgroups: EN from students of 10A1,10A2,10A3; Chemistry from students of 10A2,4,5; History from students of 10A3,10A4,10A5; Biology from students of 10A1,10A3,10A5
Know that the students of 10A1 all study math and literature together in 10A1's classroom
10A2,10A3,10A4,10A5 study Math and Literature together in 10A2,10A3,10A4,10A5's classroom
So how can subgroups still study those classes without overlapping rooms?
Title: Re: Create classrooms for multigrade classes
Post by: Liviu Lalescu on March 09, 2024, 05:37:24 PM
Sorry, ngo, but you have a style of asking things that I do not understand. I ask other users of this forum to please explain to me your problem or help you.

You have preferred rooms constraints, which override home rooms constraints. Home rooms constraints only work if the activity has exactly one students set and with the corresponding name.
Title: Re: Create classrooms for multigrade classes
Post by: ngoctp29121982 on March 09, 2024, 05:48:44 PM
How do I create a classroom for students in group 10A2 Li2,3,4,5,6 and group 10 A2 Su2,3,5?
Title: Re: Create classrooms for multigrade classes
Post by: Liviu Lalescu on March 09, 2024, 06:07:10 PM
I added two tags and two rooms and two space constraints. But the file is unsolvable, even if I unlock it. Note that a room can host a single activity in a time slot.
Title: Re: Create classrooms for multigrade classes
Post by: ngoctp29121982 on March 09, 2024, 06:21:34 PM
I have removed the tie
Still seeing 2 groups studying at the same time
Title: Re: Create classrooms for multigrade classes
Post by: ngoctp29121982 on March 09, 2024, 06:22:14 PM
attached files
Title: Re: Create classrooms for multigrade classes
Post by: ngoctp29121982 on March 09, 2024, 06:27:26 PM
sory, I mean still see history and geography at the same time
Title: Re: Create classrooms for multigrade classes
Post by: Liviu Lalescu on March 09, 2024, 06:36:39 PM
Quote from: ngoctp29121982 on March 09, 2024, 06:27:26 PMsory, I mean still see history and geography at the same time

You mean history (Su) and physics (Li)?

If so, please make a single room instead of the two rooms, and two space constraints activity tag preferred room, one with Su and this room, and one with Li and this room.
Title: Re: Create classrooms for multigrade classes
Post by: ngoctp29121982 on March 09, 2024, 06:42:44 PM
Can you help me create a file and send me a photo?
Thank you very much
Title: Re: Create classrooms for multigrade classes
Post by: Liviu Lalescu on March 09, 2024, 07:00:59 PM
OK, I attached the modified fet file.
Title: Re: Create classrooms for multigrade classes
Post by: ngoctp29121982 on March 09, 2024, 07:16:05 PM
Thank you!
In fact, if physics and history are in class 10A2 in the same History-Geography classroom, if I don't add a lecture tag, can I bind a class to have a fixed classroom? Because actually choosing a lesson card is more complicated if I want Physics and History or other subjects that do not appear at the same time in class 10A2
Title: Re: Create classrooms for multigrade classes
Post by: Liviu Lalescu on March 09, 2024, 07:30:23 PM
Sorry, ngo, but you have a very difficult/tiring style of asking/explaining the problem, and you always ask more and more...

You can add preferred room constraints or home rooms constraints. Preferred rooms override home rooms. A home room is respected if there is no preferred room for that activity and if the students set is a single one in that activity and it is exactly the same as in the home room constraint.
Title: Re: Create classrooms for multigrade classes
Post by: ngoctp29121982 on March 09, 2024, 11:53:38 PM
Ok, Thank you very much!