I have a scenario where the class should have its sessions two consecutive even when there is a break in between.Apart from the first and second sessions,all the others will force a teacher to teach his/her session then be back after the breaks .How do i ensure that happens with ease.I have tried having two activities consecutive but its unable to generate when the 50 sessions are added.
Every day there should be 1 double and the other 8 sessions be splitted that are consecutive even after breaks.This is for revision purposes
If there is min days between them with consecutive if same day, FET will not span them over a break.
Please send me your file. I'll look at it tomorrow (Sunday, actually today :) ).
There we go.My area of concern is for form 4P,4S, 4L, 4J.All two splitted activities of any subject should be done max once in a day.
The easiest variant will be not adding the break hours. The table will become smaller and easier to read by that. Also generating will be (a bit) faster.
In worst case, if you need to see the breaks (but i don't think so, since you can add the break times as a comment, so the information is also visible but without enlarging the table), you could add the hours again after generating with software TiTiTo.
Hello, Cyrus
Please allow me some hours, because I am just in the process of releasing the new FET version.
Quote from: Volker Dirr on June 16, 2024, 09:00:01 AMThe easiest variant will be not adding the break hours. The table will become smaller and easier to read by that. Also generating will be (a bit) faster.
In worst case, if you need to see the breaks (but i don't think so, since you can add the break times as a comment, so the information is also visible but without enlarging the table), you could add the hours again after generating with software TiTiTo.
I'm introducing fet to a school that has been timetable using asc and wish to change to fet.They threw the challenge to me since thats what they have been doing.I was shocked to see with asc, they could create a lesson with duration 2 and occupy two slots that have a break in between.It really shocked me.How that was possible i couldn't understand.I only told them with fet,it was possible to have the sessions splitted but make them consecutive.Lets see what we can do without removing breaks and involving another software.Its a good challenge to us.
Quote from: Liviu Lalescu on June 16, 2024, 09:00:24 AMHello, Cyrus
Please allow me some hours, because I am just in the process of releasing the new FET version.
Take your time.The new release fet version means alot to us.
I have àn idea.I will use tags that have min gaps of one.
Cyrus, I am nearly ready with the new release. I will see your file a bit later.
But I am not sure I understand correctly the problem. These 2 subactivities must be separated by a break, or they may be either continuous (no break in between) or separated by a break?
Quote from: Liviu Lalescu on June 16, 2024, 10:44:06 AMCyrus, I am nearly ready with the new release. I will see your file a bit later.
But I am not sure I understand correctly the problem. These 2 subactivities must be separated by a break, or they may be either continuous (no break in between) or separated by a break?
Because of the timings,the 3rd hour activity must continue after break and that continues with other sessions.For group 1-3, i will have one common tag for all activities and same to the form 4s.I will give gap min gaps between the two so that when one is in form 4, they will not be in form 1-3 hence avoiding collision.The only thing about form 4s is i will have half the sessions and lock all sessions after breaks to enable continuation.I will share the outcome later when done.
I am sorry, Cyrus, maybe I am tired, but I still don't understand the problem. I will try to relax a bit and read again a bit later. Maybe your file will enlighten me, I'll see it a bit later.
Volker, did you understand the problem?
Worry not.It shall be well
I saw your file. I think I know the problem. You have 5 days and some activities are split 1+1+1+1+1+1 (6x1). This is not good. You should add 1+1+1+1+1 100% min 1 days between, and then two activities grouped for one of these 5 and the 6th one, which is not in the 5.
If you have 6 subactivities with consecutive if same day = true, FET won't split them over a break. And also you make FET lose time, because clearly the min days 95% must be broken once.
I will have a break now, I am not sure I will answer so soon.
I solved by use of tags. Have a look at the file
Great! If it works, it is good.
Notes:
1) Your last time constraint is good, but I told you that the interval is [a, b), so there is no point to add a=break, but you should add the start of the interval as the next hour.
2) I see that you did not add two activities consecutive constraints for instance for Math and Math2 for the same students. You said that this is a requirement?
For number 1,maybe its by a mistake.For 2, i have them.The first time i did that,i added under a students and not all students.Didn't see the need to change since they are still working as long as i don't select any group.
Small correction on my (2), should be grouped, not consecutive, because it offers more freedom.
I did not see any constraints two activities grouped in your file. Should I see your file again, more carefully?
Check under min gaps between an ordered pair of activity tags for a students set
The constraints to solve my earlier problem is under teachers min gaps between ordered pair of activity tags (f4 & f1-3)
I'm sorry, but I don't understand. If you want Math,BREAK,Math2, then you need to add two activities grouped (Math and Math2, but only one subactivity of Math). For each pair of subactivities for each students set and subjects.
I have the min gap as 2 so that where we have 3 consecutive sessions with no break,we can't have maths on 1st session and maths 2 in 3rd session.Same case happens for english and english 2 and kiswahili and kiswahili 2.
I still don't understand, you said you wanted Math and Math2 to be grouped, but separated by a break. Maybe you meant not grouped. But you know better.
PS: Nice to see your picture here! :)
Terms might be challenging at times🫣.Good thing is we can understand one another.By the way,the new version has been received with gratitude.It seems the new aspects were waited for eagerly
Oh, great! :)
My heart is at peace.That one thing i desired to see in fet was well taken care of.Thanks Liviu for the good work
You are welcome, Cyrus! :) We had a fruitful collaboration, your advice and tests were very useful.
Most welcomed.
A concern,on teachers timetables,when you choose long name to appear,it appears on teacher's timetable and inside incase they teach certain activities with other teachers.Is it possible that if one choose the long name in teacher's timetables, there will be no other long names found apart from the teacher's one?
My concern shouldn't bother you much.So far so good with what we have
I have a trick for you: don't print the teachers' long names in the teachers' timetables, write in each teacher's comments his long name, and print the teachers' comments.
The trick has worked.Thanks
Kindly check why the comments is appearing on the page not intended
Name of class teachers and teachers name that i have in the comment section are appearing in the pages they shouldn't
Unfortunately, it is a bug. Fortunately, not critical.
Volker, could you tell me how to solve it? Should we move the comments inside the tables?
Cyrus, please give me your file, and when Volker tells me how to solve the bug I will show you the remedied HTML file, for you to check.
There we go
Hello, Cyrus,
Please put both attached files in a folder and open the HTML file. The first teacher has comments in the caption and the second teacher has the comments at the end of his table. Please let us know what you consider best. Unfortunately, it seems there are no other alternatives.
It will take a while until we fix this, because we are waiting for other users' contributions. Maybe 1-2 weeks.
Comment in the caption is definitely fine with me
OK. Is it better as it is now (centered), or left-aligned?
Centered is okay
I need to talk to Volker. Centered is OK if you add the long name for the teacher, but if someone wants some multiple lines description and details about that teacher, he might prefer left-aligned. We'll see.
It will take some more time to release a new version with this bug fixed, maybe 2 weeks.
Take your time sir.
Oh, please call me Liviu :)
Okay Liviu
I added a new snapshot, see the Snapshots announcement here: https://lalescu.ro/liviu/fet/forum/index.php?topic=5986.0 . For now it is only tar.bz2 sources, but I kindly asked Volker to compile for Windows. I have a slow laptop and internet, that's why.
Will test while the windows version is available
I uploaded a Windows version.
Please test it:
https://www.timetabling.de/download/fet-6.22.1-snapshot-21-jun-2024-15_08.exe
Tested and i can confirm its working perfectly
Liviu & Volker,thanks for the good work
Great! You're welcome! :)
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Oh, thank you for your kind intentions!
The donations page is: https://lalescu.ro/liviu/fet/donations.html . It is possible to donate by PayPal or bank account.
Welcome
When are we likely to have the version with effected changes
Probably near the date of 1 July 2024.
Ok
1July is here with us😎😎😎
Thank you for your interest, Cyrus! I hope to release FET-6.22.1 on the 3rd of July, in the evening. Or on the 4th. Everything is in place.
Lovely👌