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#1
Quote from: Volker Dirr on October 02, 2019, 10:08:29 PM
ahh... sadly i read the Moroccan forum nearly never. I just read it now.

I wonder about your requests, because:
a) it might be very critical to special teachers with 2 (or more) subjects. Like Sport and Math. Not changing the room will be bad. Also similar for other subject combinations.
b) not changing the room is already implemented: Just use the teachers home room feature. Why don't you use that?

a) i agree with you but in morocco we have not this critical case : teacher of math and sport . we can combine math with computer science for example; also math with physics but not math with sport.
b) yes, i know the constraint : a set of activities occupy max different rooms but to use it. Suppose we want teacher T works in 2 rooms per week. we have to add all the activities of teacher T, max different rooms = 2, and over the week teacher T will be in maximum 2 rooms. But he may be in room R1, then in room R2, then in R1, then in R2 again. So to avoid the changes of rooms in  each day, we have to use the constraint : a set of activities are in the same room if they are consecutive. Or add each room on a separate building and use teacher(s) max building changes per week constraint. So we need to  added 2n_teachers constraints.
Many users of Fet the moroccan version hope that Mr. Liviu make this easier . That's all.
#2
Quote from: Liviu Lalescu on October 02, 2019, 04:34:34 PM
Quote from: Omar Ben Ali on October 01, 2019, 11:11:54 PM
Thank you Liviu.
1) we want the changes considered also from a day to the next day.  In this way we can install  tha majority of teachers in  one room  all week and some teachers in 2 or may be 3 rooms max per week.
2) About room not available for a teacher or teachers. I think this feature, if added to Fet Moroccan version or Fet Official, would be very useful.

1) OK, I'll try in the future (but now I will need a resting time). Question: If a teacher is allowed 2 rooms per week, can he work on a single day at 8:00 in room1, at 9:00 in room2, and at 10:00 in room1?

2) I'll try for FET-Morocco and FET-Algeria. If needed, I'll try also in the official. But I am very busy and tired these days on working on new features of the official FET. I will need some rest.
1)No. If teacher is allowed 2 rooms (r1 and r2) per week. he do not changes room in each day. Suppose he works 5 days per week, he can works for example in rooms r1, r1, r2, r1, r2. Or r1, r2, r2, r2, r2, or r2, r1, r2, r1, r2,... etc. In all cases, teacher works in 2 rooms only per week and works in only
one room in each day.
Thank you.
#3
Quote from: Liviu Lalescu on September 19, 2019, 09:01:19 PM
Dear Moroccan users of FET,

Thank you for your feed-back.

1) About teacher(s) max room changes per week:
    a) In FET understanding, changes per week refers to the sum of changes on each day. You might add each room on a separate building and use teacher(s) max building changes per week constraint.
    b) But do you want the changes considered also from a day to the next day? In this case I need to think some more of this. It looks difficult.
    c) Do you know the constraint activities occupy max different rooms? You could add all the activities of teacher T, max different rooms = 2, and over the week teacher T will be in maximum 2 rooms. But he may be in room R1, then in room R2, then in R1, then in R2 again.

2) About room not available for a teacher: I will need to think of this constraint and I hope it is possible. But it will take a while, as I am busy with other works on FET and tired of working much.

Please clarify these above, so I know for sure what you need. Maybe you could give me some pictures to show.

Thank you Liviu.
1) we want the changes considered also from a day to the next day.  In this way we can install  tha majority of teachers in  one room  all week and some teachers in 2 or may be 3 rooms max per week.
2) About room not available for a teacher or teachers. I think this feature, if added to Fet Moroccan version or Fet Official, would be very useful.



#4
وعليكم السلام
استعمل اللقيد الزمني:
أنشطة تحتل أقصى فترات زمنية محددة
أضف كل الأنشطة للأستادين أو الأساتدة
حدد جميع الفترات بعلامة
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فمثلا إن كان لديك  3 أساتدة يشتغلون 20 - 21 -22
نختار أقصى شغل=22
الطريقة مجربة وفعالة
بالتوفيق
#5
Quote from: Liviu Lalescu on September 08, 2019, 06:10:18 PM
They could use teacher home room (a single room). But again there need to be added n_teachers constraints, and they need to choose the exact room for each teacher.
Yes for some teachers we can choose "a teacher has a home room" but for others in many situations it is impossible so we choose for others " a teacher has a set of home rooms".
#6
Quote from: Liviu Lalescu on September 08, 2019, 05:37:04 PM
Welcome!  :)

Not for buildings (but it might be possible a customization). For rooms, as I told you: activities occupy max 1 different rooms. Select all the activities of a teacher for a constraint (n_teachers constraints).

i know this constraint for rooms . But many Moroccan users of fet avoid doing n_teachers constraints of this type, put every room in one buildings, so that teachers are set in the same room throughout a day instead of using the space constraint : a set of activities are in the same room if they are consecutive.
but they find problems to do that throughout the week.
Thank you again for your patience and your kindness.
#7
Thank you very much.
I think i understand now how this constraint work.
Max buildings changes per week=the maximum number of days when there are building changes .
So Max buildings changes per week=0 product the same result as Max buildings changes per day=0.
An other question please
So there is no constraints on buildings that ensure that teachers work in the same buildings throughout the week?
Thank you.
#8
Thanks Mr Liviu.
Quote from: Liviu Lalescu on September 08, 2019, 03:45:47 PM
If you want some activities in the same room, use activities occupy max 1 different rooms.
I know how to use this constraint.
Quote from: Liviu Lalescu on September 08, 2019, 03:45:47 PM
Max building changes per week is the sum of changes in each day. It is like max gaps per week.
for example : a constraint teacher max 1 building changes per week means that in a single day the teacher is allowed to change the building (the change of  buildings is in that day ) the others days teacher works in the same building, right!.
the sum of changes of buildings in each day=1. Normally, all teachers works in two different buildings Throughout the week.
#10
I thought that maybe the fact that every building contains only one room with the same noun is the cause of this problem.
So, i create 3 buildings B1, B2 and B3.
I put N1, N2, N3, P1, P2, P3 in B1.
S01-------------S10 in B2.
S11-------------S20 in B3.
I put max buildings changes for all teachers per week=1.
But fet do nothing, teachers works in 4, 5 to 6 buildings a week.
#11
Hi ,
I had some discussions with friends users of Moroccan fet version. they claim that the space constraint Max building changes per week for all teachers is not working properly.
So, I decide to do a test. In this attached file, i put max building changes per week for all teachers=0 with random seed x=123 and y=456. Generation successful about 3mn but as result, almost all teachers work in 5 to 6 rooms (buildings) a week.
I think there's a problem. Maybe a bug.
Also the same result with max buildings changes for a teacher. I do that for 3 teachers Ar1 with max buidings changes=1,
Fr1 , with max buidings changes=2 and M1 with max buildings changes=0.
So I claim this space constraint is not working.
Can you check this please.
Thank you.

#12
Quote from: yahi on November 21, 2018, 05:56:38 PM
un problème  qui n'a pas de solution si ce n'est formater  le micro autrement ca ne va  pas  marcher  du tout  .j'ai eu le même problème mais en vain il a fallu formater .donc  si tu veux  un coup de main envoie  moi le fichier CSV et je vais  t'aider

Essaye cette solution:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjoCVBulMWQ
Tu peux aussi essayer de créer un nouveau compte de session windows.
#13
فيديو للأخ كريم خلافي يشرح الطريقة

https://youtu.be/xCJFpMPq3DM
#14
Quote from: Aisse on September 09, 2018, 02:49:18 PM
السلام عليكم ..قمت بانتج جدول قبل شهر وانا احتفظ بالنتيجة على جهازي..لكني اريد الحصول على ملفات سي آس في.. فهل يمكن الحصول عليها بناءا على  جدول ناتج منذ شهر ؟
وعليكم السلام
إذهب إلى مجلد
fetresults/timetables
ابحث على مجلد يحمل اسم الملف الي اشتغلت عليه منذ شهر ستجد داخله ملف
Nom_data_and_timetables.fet
قم بفتحه بواسطة برنامج فيت ثم قم بعملية الإنتاج بعد ذلك قم بتصدير إلى ملفات نصية لتحصل على مجلد
csv
#15
السلام عليكم
رابط تحميل النسخة الأخيرة من برنامج فيت النسخة الرسمية.
https://lalescu.ro/liviu/fet/download/fet-5.37.2.exe
للتعرف أكثر على استعمال النسخة الرسمية أنصحك بفتح ملف بيانات موجود في مجلد
Examples/morocco/hadkourt