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Hi ,
I have an idea for the new version for the command line users

we want to Get the progress status with the command line mode
Mean to Get RealTime log values for the Generating progress
you can Generate RealTime text file with the Generated Activities
then we can read this file to show the user a RealTime list of the Generated Activities
also it will help to find the last Activity at this list to know the diffecult Activity

It would slow the generation. Also it is difficult to add a good function like that (what information should I add?).

it would be great work if you make xml file with the initial order of placing activities at the Generating progress start so that we can read this file to know the activities order,
then you can only update text file with the max placed activities and the time of max placed activities.
then: we will find the last activity id at the xml file according to the max placed activities,so we can find the difficult Activity.

Hi ,
I have an idea for the new version for the command line users

we want to Get the progress status with the command line mode
Mean to Get RealTime log values for the Generating progress
you can Generate RealTime text file with the Generated Activities
then we can read this file to show the user a RealTime list of the Generated Activities
also it will help to find the last Activity at this list to know the diffecult Activity

Hi Liviu Lalescu

Great (Y)

Command line is working now


thanks

I cant use "Command line" With this version !!!
I'm trying to use this command line

" --inputfile=FET.fet --timelimitseconds=36000 --timetablehtmllevel=5 --language=ar"

it was working fine with the other versions up to 5.10.3


how to test 5.11 version useing command line ??

Hi,
where can i find this option ??

"min days per week for all teachers"
"min days per week for a teacher"

I downloaded fet-5.10.3 just now
and didn't find it

??

alfaromeo : Thanks for your help ,your idea is fine

Liviu Lalescu : simply, you are so smart   [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

your idea is the best, it is exactly what i want and what i was searching for

i tested it and worked greaaaaaaaaat [smiley=vrolijk_26.gif]


thanks for all of you

Ok brothere
again i cant decripe my problem  

actualy:

T1 teach subgroup1
T2 teach subgroup1 also

this is my data

Teacher T1 has the following activities:
Activity 1 ( T1 + Subgroup1 + math)
Activity 2 ( T1 + Subgroup1 + math)
Activity 3 ( T1 + Subgroup1 + math)
Activity 4 ( T1 + Subgroup1 + math)

teacher T2 has the following activities:
Activity 5 ( T1 + Subgroup1 + Science)
Activity 6 ( T1 + Subgroup1 + Science)
Activity 7 ( T1 + Subgroup1 + Science)
Activity 8 ( T1 + Subgroup1 + Science)


I want ( Teacher T1 ) to meet ( Teacher T2 ) for ( Subgroup1 )  at ( T1 "Activity 1" ) and (T2 "Activity 5")

got it ?

see also my last reply

Great idea but this way i will treat this activity as new one
and i dont want this
my idea in other words is

We have one sub group ( SG1 )
we have two teachers ( T1, T2)
each teacher has his ( own ) subject , not the same subject for all of them
each one of them has 4 activities for subgroup ( SG1 )
T1 works his own 4 activities at different days ( each activity at one day )
T2 also works his own 4 activities at different days ( each activity at one day )

we want for example to make the 3rd activity for T1 and the 3rd activity for T2 to be at the same day !!

>>> this Ok, I can do this ,I can force this activities to have the same day by useing ( Constraint Activity Preferred StartingTime )
>>> or by make them ( ordered , gouped )

But the problem not that
the problem is that i want the 3rd activity for T1 and the 3rd activity for T2 to be at the same day and the same time
and they will teach for this subgroup together

if i used ( Liviu Lalescu ) Idea ( Add an activity with 2 teachers and the students set. )

it wont work fine
we will face other problems

1- if i added an activity with 2 teachers for the same Subgroup, then i must select the same subject for them
2- if i added the shared activity as stand alone activity and not a part of the 4 activities , it may come at the same day with one of the rest 3 activities


the main Question is :

How to force Two activities for the same subgroup to start at the same time even if it was for different teachers and different subjects ?

sorryyyyy
but it didn't work
and when i think again at this idea i find that you misunderstand me

i don't want to make the same ( teacher ) to be present  simultaneously at room1 and room2 in the same time

but i want to make two teachers ( teacher1 ) + ( teacher2 ) to be start selected activities for each one of them at the same time ( day + time ) for the same (subgroup)

so,the final result will be some thing like this :


# Subgroup1 Timetable #

     period1   period2   period3   period4  

day1   T1         T2        T3        T4

day2   T3         T1        T5        T2

day3  T1 + T2     T3        T5        T4

===================

as you see
(subgroup1) has mor than teacher
every teacher has his own period
but at (day3) ( period1) teacher ( T1 ) share teacher ( T2 ) the same students subgroup

by the way

i mean by the word ( class ) >>>> the students subgroup Not the Room

any ideas ?

Thaaaaaaaaaaaaanks for your reply
it sounds to be great and will work
let me test and give you feed back

the main idea is that i want to make two teachers share the same students group at the same period(day + time)
some schools use this to teach the students two subjects at the same time (for example : Math in English , and Math in Arabic )

thanks

Hi
how are you brother ?

btw ,i'm working to make .Net versionof your great FET
i find it so easy after your last help
thanks alot

i want to know ( how to do ) problem
i can't find it with myself  

i have :
Student Class( C1 )
Teachers ( T1, T2)
Subjects (S1, S2)

Teacher 1 Gives Class 1 4 Periods with Subject 1
Activity 1 ( T1 + C1 + S1 )
Activity 2 ( T1 + C1 + S1 )
Activity 3 ( T1 + C1 + S1 )
Activity 4 ( T1 + C1 + S1 )

Teacher 2 Gives Class 1 4 Periods with Subject 2
Activity 5 ( T2 + C1 + S2 )
Activity 6 ( T2 + C1 + S2 )
Activity 7 ( T2 + C1 + S2 )
Activity 8 ( T2 + C1 + S2 )

I want to start Two activities at the same time for the same students
in other words, i there will be two teachers at the same time at the same class
when i used (Constraint Activities Same StartingTime)  (Activities must have the same starting time) and select (Activity 1) with the (Activity 5)

I get this Warning

The 1st Warning

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FET warning
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Time constraint
Activities must have the same starting time
Weight (percentage)=100%
Number of activities=2
Activity with id=106201 ( T: Teacher1 , S: Subject1 , St: 1/4 )
Activity with id=107801 ( T: Teacher2 , S: Subject2 , St: 1/4 )

The constraint is impossible to respect, because there are the activities with id-s 106201 and 107801 which conflict one with another, because they have common students sets or teachers or must be not overlapping. The weight of this constraint is 100.0%, so your timetable is impossible. Please correct this constraint.
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Skip rest   See next  
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After this Warning another one comes up

The 2nd Warning

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FET warning
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You have a set of impossible constraints activities same starting time, considering all the indirect links between activities same starting time constraints

The activities with ids 106201 and 107801 must be simultaneous (request determined indirectly), but they have common teachers and/or students sets or must be not overlapping
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Skip rest   See next  
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i find that i cant define the same starting time for the same students as i understand

the problem now is that we realy want to share period with 2 activities for the same students !!

thanks for your help
realy i find your notes helpfull for me

i'll convert your algorithm to .Net class
and i'll send you copy of this class

actualy,I cant find words to say for you  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

[smiley=dankk2.gif]

thaaaaaaaaaaanks alot for your help

thanks for your reply

actualy i used your command line up to this time
but,i dont want to include 50 Mb files with my application
as i think that there is no need to include the (fet) all files while i'm useing (command line )
so,i'm trying to isolate the algorithm and use it only to decrease my application size

thanks for your help
i'll try to find out how to use generate.cpp file with my .Net application

Hi
I want your help,

can you support me with the pure(timetabling algorithm) part of the fet program so that i can use it in my own vb.net program

i'm any developer and trying to make timetabling program with vb.net

and hop to use the same fet timetabling algorithm

thanks