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Started by Benahmed Abdelkrim, February 25, 2017, 04:26:32 PM

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Benahmed Abdelkrim

 Hi!
    Can we say that at some time past FET has failed to find a solution?

An open question to everyone...
B.A/krim

Liviu Lalescu

There are two files in the official FET examples which can solve in 3 minutes or in 5 hours (on my computer). The files are examples/Namibia/by-Bobby/set-2/may-take-hours/CONCORDIA.fet and examples/Romania/Oradea/FS-2008-2009-difficult.fet.

Also, some users reported more than 24 hours for a file.

Benahmed Abdelkrim

#2
May be the following constraints that are at issue:
1/ same starting time with 100%
2/ min days between activities with 100%

I think the first one(same starting time) needs better optimization, maybe, I do not know ...what do you think?



B.A/krim

Liviu Lalescu

I am not sure I understand, but I can tell you that they are optimized the best I could.

Benahmed Abdelkrim

 mmm... May be the weight 100%?
B.A/krim

Liviu Lalescu

You can use weight less than 100%, but the constraint might then be broken.

Benahmed Abdelkrim

In this case the conflicts will be near and the production time will be reduced. But the quality will be reduced too!
Can the production time be reduced with a better quality of a timetable?!

B.A/krim

Liviu Lalescu

Quote from: Benahmed Abdelkrim on February 26, 2017, 06:04:34 PM
In this case the conflicts will be near and the production time will be reduced. But the quality will be reduced too!
Can the production time be reduced with a better quality of a timetable?!

I guess the answer is no.

Benahmed Abdelkrim

You mean that we can not avoid conflicts, if we want a reduced production time?
B.A/krim

Liviu Lalescu

It is logical that the generation takes longer if the timetable is more constrained. But in some cases it can take less time. For instance, for a locked timetable, it takes very little.

Benahmed Abdelkrim

Sometimes With the same schedule and under the same conditions of data and constraints, different production times are obtained...
B.A/krim

Liviu Lalescu

Yes, of course, the process is semi-randomized.

Benahmed Abdelkrim

  ...Here an example where FET takes 3H 37Min 55S to produce a timetable
B.A/krim

Benahmed Abdelkrim

#13
Quote from: Liviu Lalescu on February 26, 2017, 11:08:06 AM
There are two files in the official FET examples which can solve in 3 minutes or in 5 hours (on my computer). The files are examples/Namibia/by-Bobby/set-2/may-take-hours/CONCORDIA.fet and examples/Romania/Oradea/FS-2008-2009-difficult.fet.

Also, some users reported more than 24 hours for a file.

  Sory! But you meant that time depends on hardware; Ie that the same file can take diferends times on diferends computers?!!!...
B.A/krim

Liviu Lalescu

Yes.

You can start with the same random seed to obtain the same timetable.