Custom FET MA (mornings/afternoons or Morocco/Algeria)

[RYANE 2015]

Hello mr LIVIEU
I was wondering if you could keep a special version of fet morocco instead of its fusion with the algerian one.Considring that the educational system criterias are different especially concerning teacher's timetables.
Glad to text you and hope you consider our demands.
                                                                                           RYANE ABDELMOUHCINE
                                                                                                 MARRAKECH
                                                                                                   10/06/2020

[Liviu Lalescu]

Hello, Mr. RYANE,

Please read my post: https://lalescu.ro/liviu/fet/forum/index.php?topic=4501.msg24853#msg24853

I guarantee you that FET-MA will do everything as needed for Morocco. It will work with Ministry of Education software. And you still have FET-Morocco available.

[yassine jedata]

We hope to preserve the characteristics of the Moroccan version

[asderm]

Dear Mr liviu,
First of all, we are very grateful and thankful for your tremendous work, which resulted in this perfect program. I have been fortunate to follow this forum since 2010, which was the first year during which  I used FET and since then I have been using it and contributing to its perfection and improvement through several suggestions that my colleagues and I gathered during the various trainings and evaluations of FET that different administrators agreed upon. We have been appreciating throughout the past years your positive reactions to our requests and suggestions that found way to the program data(restrictions) and therefore helped us overcome the different obstacles that encountered us trying to adapt  the moroccan version of FET to the Moroccans school system requirements . Moreover, no one can deny that the Moroccan version has become part of our administrative history and for this consideration and also due to the  fact that the Moroccan and Algerian school systems have different requirements as far as timetable scheduling is concerned. For these reasons, I would like to address to you, in my own name and on behalf of a group of my colleagues in Marrakesh and Azillal, to keep the two copies separately.
Yours sincerely.
Mohamed Asderm
MARRAKECH
asderm.med@gmail.com

[elmassi brahim]

 في الحقيقة نشكر كم على التحديث للنسخة المغربية التي يستغل بها الآلاف بالمغرب وشكراااا

[elmassi brahim]

We hope to preserve the characteristics of the Moroccan version

[Benahmed Abdelkrim]

بداية نتوجه بالشكر للسيد
Liviu
على التضحية بوقته والاستجابة لمطالب العديد من مستخدمي البرنامج حول العالم... تقريبا بدون مقابل، ونستسمحه في ذلك.

إن فكرة التوحيد كانت تراود العديد من مستخدمي البرنامج وحتى
Liviu
نفسه و
Volker
كذلك، لاعتبارات عدّة، على سبيل المثال الصعوبة البالغة التي يجدها المؤلف في متابعة تحديث وتطوير نسختين متقاربتين جدا تعملان بنظام النوبتين (الصباح والمساء) ولا تختلفان إلا في قيود الاستثناء فقط. كما أن ربط البرنامج بالجغرافيا حتى ولو كان في إصدار مخصص من خلال الاسم، هو فكرة سيئة للغاية.

إنه مجرد حظ أن يعبر مستخدمون في مكان ما عن خصائص معينة، يحتاجها مستخدمون آخرون في أماكن أخرى.

إن الاسم المتصل بالجغرافيا لهو اسم سيئ للغاية، حيث لا يعكس هذا الاسم الغرض الأساسي من استخدام الإصدار المخصص، ولا يكون معبرا بشكل كاف ودقيق عن خصائصه ومميزاته. أذكر أنه في موضوع هنا في المنتدى، ذكر السيد
Volker
أن مدارس معينة في ألمانيا تعمل بنظام النوبتين وهي تحتاج إلى هذا الإصدار المخصص لكن الاسم المرتبط بالجغرافيا لا يعرّف بهذه الخصائص والمميزات بالشكل الكافي مما يجعل هذه المدارس محرومة من التمتع بهذا الاصدار المخصص رغم حاجتها الماسة إليه.

إن الإصدار الأخير والمدمج
FET-MA2
أضيف له ميزة ذكية جدا إذ يستطيع البرنامج تذكر الخيار الأخير لسلوك الصباح والمساء الذي اختاره المستخدم للمدرس (حصري أو مطلق أو استثناء معين) مما يمكن المستخدم من الاقتصاد في الوقت عند إدخال البيانات الخاصة بالمدرس، وهذا استجابة للمطالب التي عبر عنها الكثير من المستخدمين خاصة من طرف إخواننا في مغربنا الشقيق.

وفي الختام لا يسعنا إلا أن نجدد شكرنا المميز والخاص للسيد ليفيو والسيد فولكر على التحديث المستمر للبرنامج ومساعدتهما لحل المشكلات التي تعترض مستخدمي البرنامج.

[Liviu Lalescu]

I have just released the new version, FET-MA2. Please get it from here: https://lalescu.ro/liviu/fet/download/custom/ma/

I took care of the suggestions of the Moroccan users through the voice of Mr. Abdeljalil Elghazoui by private emails.

Please only post here after you work with FET-MA2 and found how it works.

[Liviu Lalescu]

Dear Mr liviu,
First of all, we are very grateful and thankful for your tremendous work, which resulted in this perfect program. I have been fortunate to follow this forum since 2010, which was the first year during which  I used FET and since then I have been using it and contributing to its perfection and improvement through several suggestions that my colleagues and I gathered during the various trainings and evaluations of FET that different administrators agreed upon. We have been appreciating throughout the past years your positive reactions to our requests and suggestions that found way to the program data(restrictions) and therefore helped us overcome the different obstacles that encountered us trying to adapt  the moroccan version of FET to the Moroccans school system requirements . Moreover, no one can deny that the Moroccan version has become part of our administrative history and for this consideration and also due to the  fact that the Moroccan and Algerian school systems have different requirements as far as timetable scheduling is concerned. For these reasons, I would like to address to you, in my own name and on behalf of a group of my colleagues in Marrakesh and Azillal, to keep the two copies separately.
Yours sincerely.
Mohamed Asderm
MARRAKECH
asderm.med@gmail.com

Dear Mr. Mohamed Asderm,

I have read your post. Please don't be scared of the union. If you don't manage, I'm here to help. Everything will be OK. Please download the latest FET-MA version from here: https://lalescu.ro/liviu/fet/download/custom/ma/ and try it on your file. Please see also my post: https://lalescu.ro/liviu/fet/forum/index.php?topic=4501.msg24853#msg24853

[Younes GHOUZAL]

We hope to preserve the characteristics of the Moroccan version

[Volker Dirr]

Dear GHOUZAL,

you are a lucky guy, because FET-MA preserve the characteristics of the Moroccan version.

Best Regards
Volker Dirr

[Mubarak Mzili]

For each educational organization: Moroccoan and Algerian have their characteristics, and merging them into a single version will be at the expense of one of the two versions, please Mr. Liviu to keep the Morocan version independent to preserve its privacy.

[Volker Dirr]

In the Moroccan Version are already a lot of other characteristics included. We included German translations for example already several years ago and we added already a lot of constraints that were never requested by Moroccan users. We can't delete that all. If you only keep the Moroccan characteristic, then 0 lines of code will stay.

The Moroccan version was never independent from other version and it was always used by other schools. For example German "Abendrealschulen" also use the "Moroccan" version several years now.
So you are totaly wrong if you think that is there something special Moroccan in the Moroccan version.
The only special Moroccan in the Moroccan version is the name "Moroccan".
All other stuff is not special in Moroccan version and it is used by other schools also.

So the MA version care about all characteristics of Moroccan. It is a very good win-win software. Nobody will loose something with the new version.

But of course feel free and use the old Moroccan version and remove all stuff that is not Moroccan, because even in the very first Moroccan FET version was a lot of stuff included that is not used by Moroccan schools.
In all that years no Moroccan user complains about that. No Moroccan user asked us in the last years to remove all that unneeded characteristics of other schools in the Moroccan version.

I think the discussion is over now.
I won't answer anymore to this topic.
Please don't fill this forum with "stupid" messages like "preserve the characteristics of the Moroccan version", because the new MA version preserve the characteristics of the Moroccan version.
In worst case i will think about locking this topic or delete users if they still continue to tell incorrect stuff.

Don't forget that you are guest here in the forum and Liviu and me worked all the last years for free and we will continue to care about to preserve the characteristics of the Moroccan version in the "Moroccan" version, It is called MA.

[abdeljalil elghazoui]

Mr Volker First of all, we offer you and Mr. Liviu all thanks and appreciation for your efforts with us as Moroccan users. Actually, we, as Moroccans, bear the responsibility, we have long been absent from the forum, but this is an important reason, which is that version 42 largely responds to the aspirations of the Moroccan user. Only the interface of displaying the results remained. Professor Khaled Ait Ben Omar is currently working on a new interface in version 52 and he coordinates with you in  This is why we hope you will help us in this work and do not deprive us of future development Finally, we trust you and Mr. Levio to ensure that we are familiar with the work in the regular Moroccan version

[bachiri401]

Thank you Mr Volker for this long persuading clarifications.

Thank you as well millions of times for making our work easier and easier over the years  (for free)

I have a question to be answered only in the minds not on the forum because it is enough for stupid stuff as Mr Volker said.

This question is : What is missing in fet_ma in comparising with your beloved version (Moroccan or Algerian) ?