Orario su due sedi e diversi indirizzi

Started by Drago, October 05, 2023, 04:12:15 PM

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Drago

Ciao Liviu
espongo un problema
ho un istituto avente due sedi
sede 1 Alberghiero
sede 2 Artistico, Nautico e Scientifico
ovviamente per ogni indirizzo ci sono le sezioni e le aule
Alberghiero 1A, 2A, 1B, 2B.......
Artistico 1AAR, 1BAR, 2AAR, 2BAR.....
Nautico 1AN, 2AN, 1BN,2BN......
Scientifico 1ASC, 1BSC, 2ASC, 2BSC...........
Alcuni docenti insegnano sia all'artistico, sia al nautico e allo scientifico, per questi non c'è problema di spostamento

altri invece si devono spostare tra Alberghiero (Sede1) e Sede2

vorrei capire come mi evo comportare in fase inserimento dati
in modo da ottenere alla fine degli orari separati ognuno per il proprio indirizzo

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Hi Liviu
I present a problem
I have an institute with two locations
headquarters 1 Hotel
headquarters 2 Artistic, Nautical and Scientific
obviously for each address there are sections and classrooms
Hotel 1A, 2A, 1B, 2B.......
Artistic 1AAR, 1BAR, 2AAR, 2BAR.....
Nautical 1AN, 2AN, 1BN,2BN......
Scientific 1ASC, 1BSC, 2ASC, 2BSC...........
Some teachers teach both artistic, nautical and scientific, for these there is no problem of travel

others instead have to move between Alberghiero (Sede1) and Sede2

I would like to understand how I should behave during data entry
in order to obtain separate timetables at the end, each for your own address

Volker Dirr

You must do 3 steps:

1. Add two buildings. (FET -> Data -> Buildings)

2. Set the correct building to each room. (FET -> Data -> Rooms)

3. You must add room constraints, so that ever activity is connected with a room. You can check if you missed activities here: FET -> Statistics -> Activities rooms statistic.
There shouldn't be activities with an unspecified room

Liviu Lalescu

Thank you, Volker!

Ciao, Drago,

Maybe in addition to what Volker said, add also building constraints.

Drago

Hi Liviu...
I am attaching a file with two locations inserted
1) Headquarters
2) Multifunctional

Problems...
I had to deactivate activities 617 and 647 otherwise it doesn't generate the time, I left it running for an hour and a half and it was always still, deactivating the activities with problems generates the time in a matter of seconds.

I have a problem with teachers changing buildings
in the file I attach I blocked all the activities so you see exactly what I see

for example, the Cocolicchio teacher on Mondays does the first two hours in 1B which is located in the main office and then the 4-5th and 6th hour at the multipurpose building
but it doesn't leave time for the change of building.

where am I wrong?


scarica file fet

Liviu Lalescu

Hi, @Drago ,

I am trying on it. Please allow me some more time.

But you did not add preferred / home rooms.

Liviu Lalescu

#5
Ciao, Drago!

You can write in Italian if you want.

1) You need to add preferred rooms / home rooms constraints.

2) Your teacher not available constraints are too strong. See k18.fet. There is no free slot Saturday 6th. In this file I only let 5 AF and their teachers.

3) See kb2.fet. In this file I only let year 5. Again, the teacher not available constraints are too strong, but even if I deactivate for GIORDANO not available it won't solve. You need to relax the not available constraints, think about it.

You can generate and stop highest and see the highest stage timetable for students/teachers. It will guide you.

I can help you some more, let me know.

As a personal appeal, since this software is free software, kindly please tell your institution that this project needs financial support. But only if it proves useful for you.

Drago

Quote from: Liviu Lalescu on October 16, 2023, 05:50:54 PMCiao, Drago!

You can write in Italian if you want.

grazie

Quote1) You need to add preferred rooms / home rooms constraints.

non ho capito bene cosa devo fare. Esempio?

Quote2) Your teacher not available constraints are too strong. See k18.fet. There is no free slot Saturday 6th. In this file I only let 5 AF and their teachers.

3) See kb2.fet. In this file I only let year 5. Again, the teacher not available constraints are too strong, but even if I deactivate for GIORDANO not available it won't solve. You need to relax the not available constraints, think about it.

You can generate and stop highest and see the highest stage timetable for students/teachers. It will guide you.

QuoteI can help you some more, let me know.

grazie
QuoteAs a personal appeal, since this software is free software, kindly please tell your institution that this project needs financial support. But only if it proves useful for you.

capisco, ma io non ho nessun incarico istituzionale per formare l'orario, sto solo cercando di usare il programma per mia soddisfazione personale, usando e prendendo spunto dall'orario scolastico, tutto qui.



In breve l'orario non girava perchè mi sono accorto di aver fatto un paio di errori.
risolto questi gira senza errori, però il problema che mi rimane sono gli insegnanti che devono cambiare sede, non mi da l'ora di stacco per cambio sede, ho cercato di bloccare e forzare alcune ore ma sposta gli altri etc.

ti allego l'orario che gira
https://www.filemail.com/d/zcjxsxkqxxlhaoi



Liviu Lalescu

Ciao, Drago,

I think you want to add constraints students set home room(s). I began this process for you - see the attached file. See also the two attached screenshots to see how to add these constraints.