activities.csv - add the number of students

[gjveltink]

Hi,

I would be very pleased, if in a future version it would be possible to specify the number of students for an activity as an extra column in the activities.csv.

Rationale: I mainly use FET for planning examinations. In this setting the number of calculated participants and actual participants differs significantly, because students have to repeat examinations or do not register for  examinations.

Many thanks in advance!

Regards,

Gert Veltink

[Volker Dirr]

I don't like it in the activities.csv, because in that case import and export activities.csv is different.
adding this also in the import is difficult (impossible?).

so i think this is max possible in activities_statistics.csv or in timetable.csv (because you can't import that csv files.).

i am not sure what is better: activities_statistics.csv or timetable.csv?

[gjveltink]

 :-/

Well, but I actually need these numbers in the import!
Is there any technical reason why the import is prohibitive?

Thanks in advance!

Cheers!

Gert

[Volker Dirr]

you can import the number of students by importing the students.csv before importing the activties.csv.

number of students is an attribute of the students structure, not of the activity.

[Liviu Lalescu]

Volker, each activity can have the number of students automatically computed or separately specified.

[Volker Dirr]

Yes, but it it usefull do import the number of students that way? Normaly you have less students then activities. So it is less work to import the number of students by the students.csv then modifing each activity.

[Volker Dirr]

Yes, but it it usefull to import the number of students that way? Normaly you have less students then activities. So it is less work to import the number of students by the students.csv then modifing each activity.

[Liviu Lalescu]

Yes, but it it usefull to import the number of students that way? Normaly you have less students then activities. So it is less work to import the number of students by the students.csv then modifing each activity.

gjveltink wants a different number of students than the computed students.

Example: students S1 (10 students), activities A1 (with students S1), A2 (with students S1), A1 has 5 students (specified), A2 has 15 students (specified).

[Liviu Lalescu]

Hi,

I would be very pleased, if in a future version it would be possible to specify the number of students for an activity as an extra column in the activities.csv.

Rationale: I mainly use FET for planning examinations. In this setting the number of calculated participants and actual participants differs significantly, because students have to repeat examinations or do not register for  examinations.

Many thanks in advance!

Regards,

Gert Veltink

I added this request in the TODO. It depends on Volker, as I don't know how to modify the import/export routines.

The problem is that the import for activities is already a big dialog and there is not enough space to add other field(s).

[ogursoy]

Hi,

This is very usefull feature for a university use case. Since every semester the number of students changes due to PASS & FAIL. Every semester numbers should be calculated and imported to FET accordingly. This feature would be a killer.

Thanks for the FET!

[Volker Dirr]

i still think it is unneeded in the activities, since the number of students is/should be stored in the students set.
especialy for universities it will be very easy/simple to export the students structrue correct. so subgroups are "real"/"single" students with students number ==1.

[ogursoy]

In our case, every semester we need to prepare a report for number of students from the University Student Information system which is not practical for us. (Course registration period starts after the schedule is published!So, the numbers in the Student information system is also not certain for that period of time.)

Anyway, since this was a feature request, I can not insist on. Thanks for the great software. I appreciate it very much.

May be irrelavant but one more question , how complicate do you think that using FET as a scheduling engine for a web application ?

[Liviu Lalescu]

Please insist, there is no problem. We can talk on this.

Volker, I saw the dialog for import activities. There is space there to add the number of students for the activities, in the lower right corner. The only problem I see is in keeping the compatibility with old files, which don't have this field.

We could add default value for this field "-1".

But Volker is in charge with the import code, it's his decision.

About using FET for a web application, I think it is best if we talked on a separate topic (you can start a new one).

[Volker Dirr]

yes, there is space.
i might code it.