Terms more even for a teacher

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mikkojoo

Quote from: Liviu Lalescu on May 29, 2025, 09:56:00 AMYes, I agree. I added this in the TODO and I will think of it for the future. If I find sponsors, I will do it rightaway. My price for this feature is 1,600 (one thousand six hundred) euros.

Sounds fair. I have to find some time to inform principals in Finland about FET. I find it super. It works the way I think and it makes things manageable.

Unfortunately it's not possible for me to support you financially. Things go so, that municipality decide what to buy and I can only tell my opinion. Maybe I can tell it louder.

Liviu Lalescu

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Thank you!

I thought and I might try these even without sponsors. They are useful.

So, teacher(s) max/min hours per term, 4 types of constraints. The min will have a check box, "Allow empty terms".

Is this needed also for students?

How about the min (for teachers) - is it useful? What do you think? And with the check box allowing empty terms?

Will you be able to test? I might have tomorrow evening a working version, if I move fast. I can do my own tests, but I prefer to see the real life in action.

mikkojoo

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So, teacher(s) max/min hours per term, 4 types of constraints. The min will have a check box, "Allow empty terms".

Is this needed also for students?

How about the min (for teachers) - is it useful? What do you think? And with the check box allowing empty terms?

Will you be able to test? I might have tomorrow evening a working version, if I move fast. I can do my own tests, but I prefer to see the real life in action.

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Not needed for students in our system. We only want that they have at least 3 lessons a day, nothing more is needed. Timetable is so full that it dosn't need more constrains.

mikkojoo

Min for tearhers in  maybe needed, when a taecher has only few activities.
I'm trying to have this done today, but I certainly will test ýour new constrains  immediately.  If it gives better results its possible for me to make new one on Saturday/Sunday

mikkojoo

One simple question:
If a teacher has for example 75 activities on the wholwe year, what could be the proper min and max for one term?
Or when teacher has 62? Or 82?

75/5 = 15 (min 12, max 17????)
62/5 = 12,4 (min 10, max 14????)
82/5 = 16,4 (min 15, max 19????)

Liviu Lalescu

Quote from: mikkojoo on May 29, 2025, 05:29:39 PMOne simple question:
If a teacher has for example 75 activities on the wholwe year, what could be the proper min and max for one term?
Or when teacher has 62? Or 82?

75/5 = 15 (min 12, max 17????)
62/5 = 12,4 (min 10, max 14????)
82/5 = 16,4 (min 15, max 19????)


The question is unfortunately not simple. You need to start with higher max and lower min, and strengthen them as you find timetables. You know better than me (practically).

mikkojoo

Ok, thanks. Simple question and answer is not. Agreed.

Liviu Lalescu

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Mikko, the variant with "min" is very complicated. I think I will do only the "max" variant, hoping it is the most important and useful. I will let you know when ready. The most important and difficult part is done, the generating code, but now comes the tedious part of the interface.

What do you think about "min"? Is it not important?

Liviu Lalescu

Dear Mikko,

I did the max. Please let me know. I hope to release maybe in a few days.

The link to test the snapshot is: https://lalescu.ro/liviu/fet/download/test/

Thank you for the suggestion!

mikkojoo

Quote from: Liviu Lalescu on May 30, 2025, 10:16:34 AMMikko, the variant with "min" is very complicated. I think I will do only the "max" variant, hoping it is the most important and useful. I will let you know when ready. The most important and difficult part is done, the generating code, but now comes the tedious part of the interface.

What do you think about "min"? Is it not important?


Yes, the problem is always too crowded terms. If that is sorted out, there is no need for min, because activities are more even with just "max". A teacher with very small amount of activities, the first problem can be "min" but it can be handled with "max".
And, too many constraints will be a mess. It already is, for me.

But this max will make things much easier.

Liviu Lalescu

The new official FET version, 7.2.4, with max, is just released now. Thank you, Mikko, for suggesting it and testing it!