طلب حل مشكل الأيام الفارغة للتلاميذ Le problème a été résolu

[abdeljalil elghazoui]

Les demandes pour améliorer et développer la performance de  fet Maroc
request to Improve the performance  and Development fet-Morocco 
في هذا الموضوع سيتم عرض ابرز الطلبات الموجهة للسيد لليفيو
قصد تحسين اداء برنام فيت المغرب
مع الرجاء الكتابة بالعربية والترجمة إلى الأنجليزية إذا أمكن
ولو باستعمال مترجم جوجل
وتحية طيبة

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[abdeljalil elghazoui]

في بعض الأحيان ينتج البرنام أيام فارغة كليا للتلاميذ الرجاء حل هذا الإشكال
فعلى الأقل يجب أن يدرس التلميذ ساعتين خلال اليوم بأكمله
أنظر اللون الأحمر في الصورة

Parfois fet produite des jours entièrement vides pour les élèves S'il vous plaît résoudre ce problème
alors les étudiants doivent être enseigné  au moins deux heures par jour
Voir la couleur rouge dans l'image

Sometimes fet produced entirely empty days for students Please solve this problem
then students should be taught at least two hours per day
See the color red in the image

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[RYANE 2015]

Bonjour
c est ryane directeur du college T.B.Z marrakech
merci pour votre collaboration
merci a monsieur lallescou
et a vous  si lghazoui

[Liviu Lalescu]

Avec plaisir

[Liviu Lalescu]

I tried to add a constraint, but it is too complicated/difficult for
me. I'll think again later.

But there are alternative solutions (which are a bit more difficult to
implement). In the attached file, group "2Hu -1" breaks your request. I
generated on the file sample-morocco.fet. So I made file liviu.fet with
additional constraints (see the last constraints, activities occupy max
time slots from selection), so that the file respects your condition
for group "2Hu -1".

You need to add such constraints for all subgroups.

See the last constraints and I hope you'll understand.

Also, if you have a subgroup of which the higher group has activities,
also the activities of the group are to be added.

Please let me know.

[abdeljalil elghazoui]

Oui, je comprends la manière
Comme vous l'avez dit, il est difficile à mettre en œuvre
Mais si gracieusement
Comme vous pouvez le voir sur la photo, nous avons un bouton  à cocher: Autoriser les jours vides
est ce que Vous ne pouvez pas convertir  se bouton pour avoir:  Autoriser les demi journée vides
voir l'image

I understand the way
As you said, it is difficult to implement
But so gracefully
As you can see from the picture, we have a button box: Allow empty days
is that you can not convert button to be: Allow half empty day
see the image

[Liviu Lalescu]

http://lalescu.ro/liviu/fet/download/custom/morocco/test/

Please test extensively and let me know if it works OK. If there are
bugs, the timetable might be impossible, so it is very important there
are no bugs.

[abdeljalil elghazoui]

Salutations à vous mon ami Livio
Je l'ai expérimenté avec la nouvelle version qui fonctionne bien
Merci Merci Merci

Greetings to you my friend Livio
I experimented with the new version that works well
thank you thank you thank you

[najari]

أشكر السيد ليفيو على نسخة فيت المغربية الجديدة 5.27.3 والتي تتضمن ما يلي:
أيقونة فيت الجميلة الحمراء
القيد الجديد "العدد الأقصى من الأيام في الأسبوع لكل الطلاب" والذي سيحل العديد من المشاكل ويفتح العديد من آفاق استعمالات فيت.

Je remercie Mr liviu pour la nouvelle version marocaine 5.27.3 qui comporte les nouveautés suivantes:
la belle icône FET en rouge
la nouvelle contrainte "le maximum de jours de scolarité pour tous les élèves"  (Max days per week for all students)

I thank Mr liviu for the new Moroccan Version 5.27.3 which includes the following new features:
the beautiful red icon FET
the new constraint "Max days per week for all students"

[Liviu Lalescu]

Avec plaisir

[Omar Ben Ali]

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله تعالى وبركاته
عند استعمال  القيد " العدد الأدنى من الحصص اليومية للطلاب" مع السماح بأيام فارغة هنا البرنام يعتبر اليوم الفارغ هو نصف اليوم الحقيقي لذلك لو قمنا بتفريغ طلاب معينين في نصف يوم مثلا الجمعة زوالا فقد ينتج البرنام الجمعة يوما كاملا فارغا وهذا مرفوض
هل من وسيلة لجعل فيت يعتبر في الحسبان نصف اليوم (الجمعة زوالا) الذي تم تفريغه
وبالتالي يملأ الجمعة صباحا بمهمتين على الأقل ؟
هل من حل لهذا المشكل ؟
شكرا جزيلا مسبقا


When we use the constraint "Min hours daily for all students=2" with "Allow empty days", here fet consider the empty day is a half real day. Now if we also use "A students set's not available times" in some half real day (say for example Friday afternoon, then Fet can generate a timetable with Friday is an empty day which is not acceptable.
Is there a way to make fet take in consideration that we have already Friday afternoon free, thus  fet filled Friday morning with at least 2 activities ?
Is there a solution to this problem?
Many thanks for considering my request.

[Liviu Lalescu]

Quote from the FET Morocco help: "The constraint students (set) min hours daily without allowing empty days is for real days, and for nonempty FET days (half days) it respects the minimum number of hours daily." So I guess you need to not allow empty days.

To force a students subgroup to have activities on a special day, you can use constraint activities occupy max time slots from selection.

[Omar Ben Ali]

Quote from the FET Morocco help: "The constraint students (set) min hours daily without allowing empty days is for real days, and for nonempty FET days (half days) it respects the minimum number of hours daily." So I guess you need to not allow empty days.

To force a students subgroup to have activities on a special day, you can use constraint activities occupy max time slots from selection.

Does this mean that  it's beter for me to use the constraint "Min hours daily for all students=2" and without allowing empty days and keep  "A students set's not available times" in Friday afternoon ?

or

to keep the constraint "Min hours daily for all students=2" with "Allow empty days", and use "A students set's not available times" in Friday afternoon, and finally the constraint  " A set of activities activities occupies max time slots from selection"?

For the constraint " A set of activities activities occupies max time slots from selection" how many Max occupied i make,  if i want some groups not available Friday afternoon?

Thank you

[Liviu Lalescu]

Does this mean that  it's beter for me to use the constraint "Min hours daily for all students=2" and without allowing empty days and keep  "A students set's not available times" in Friday afternoon ?

This is much easier to add and better.

or

to keep the constraint "Min hours daily for all students=2" with "Allow empty days", and use "A students set's not available times" in Friday afternoon, and finally the constraint  " A set of activities activities occupies max time slots from selection"?

For the constraint " A set of activities activities occupies max time slots from selection" how many Max occupied i make,  if i want some groups not available Friday afternoon?

Thank you

For each subgroup, a constraint. But you don't need - you'll use the first approach above.

[Omar Ben Ali]

For each subgroup, a constraint. But you don't need - you'll use the first approach above.

Of course for each subgroup,  but I mean for the constraint  " A set of activities  occupies max time slots from selection" how many Max occupied i make?  it began from 0 to I don't know ...

Many thanks