أMaximum gaps between morning and afternoon

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Benahmed Abdelkrim

Quote from: Liviu Lalescu on July 26, 2020, 10:43:32 PM
Benahmed: OK, I see (even if I am not sure you understood me correctly/completely).

I understand you very well. FET is very flexible with some constraints we can do almost everything.
another constraint which modulates the gaps between morning and afternoon on real days and per week. I think this is not a good idea, because a minimum of gaps is very necessary, otherwise the timetables becomes very hard even impossible, you can try with max gaps per real days = 0. FET will get stuck!
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Liviu Lalescu

Yes, but if you try with max gaps per real day = 1 and max gaps per real day per whole week = 2, it is not so hard (as 0 per real day). It will make 3 days with 0 gaps per real day and 2 days with 1 gap per real day.

But anyway, it might confuse the user.

Benahmed Abdelkrim

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Quote from: Liviu Lalescu on July 26, 2020, 11:03:35 PM
Yes, but if you try with max gaps per real day = 1 and max gaps per real day per whole week = 2, it is not so hard (as 0 per real day). It will make 3 days with 0 gaps per real day and 2 days with 1 gap per real day.

But anyway, it might confuse the user.

even with 2 gaps per real days and per whole week, this cannot be achieved for all teachers and for all students..maybe for a few teachers and for a few students sets only. so I do not see the usefulness of adding a very limited constraint!
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Liviu Lalescu

It would be an addition, something in plus, not in minus. It is more relaxed than max 0 gaps per real day. I don't understand why are you so bitter. But I admit it might confuse the users and that it is not really needed now.

Benahmed Abdelkrim

I am so Sorry, dear Liviu if I got a little out of context, but I had to explain the importance of the GAPS in the timetables.  In addition, the proposed constraint like you said may confuse users and make the timetables very difficult even impossible  if they are misused.
I think also, that's best to leave time, especially for beginners, until they understand the importance of  GAPS in the timetables.
Thank you very much dear Liviu 🙂
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Liviu Lalescu


yahi

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i think that  such a proposal has been asked for  by many  FET  users as  the problem is between 10 to 12 and working in the  afternoon the situations worsens when a teachers who  does not live in the  work place has to wait from 10 am to 15.pm tiring and  boring may be if  the constraint is adopted it could be applied on the  teachers leaving away of  school and won"t affect the time table generation as it concerns only a limited number of teachers

Liviu Lalescu

Quote from: yahi on July 27, 2020, 09:03:15 PM
i think that  such a proposal has been asked for  by many  FET  users as  the problem is between 10 to 12 and working in the  afternoon the situations worsens when a teachers who  does not live in the  work place has to wait from 10 am to 15.pm tiring and  boring may be if  the constraint is adopted it could be applied on the  teachers leaving away of  school and won"t affect the time table generation as it concerns only a limited number of teachers

I wrote it, but I see I need to repeat it: why can't you use the constraint teachers max gaps per real day?

Liviu Lalescu

Benahmed: I got a suggestion from bachiri401 to add what I thought of, teachers/students max gaps per week for real days. I need to consider it; it is only a plus, not a minus, it won't hurt nobody if I will make it.

Benahmed Abdelkrim

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يمكن الاطلاع على الموضوع المبين في الرابط أدناه، فهو يشرح دور الفجوات في الجداول الزمنية. لقد تم تحيينه الآن ليأخذ في الحسبان القيود الجديدة التي تم إضافتها مؤخرا

https://lalescu.ro/liviu/fet/forum/index.php?topic=4586.msg25503#msg25503
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Liviu Lalescu

Quote from: Benahmed Abdelkrim on July 27, 2020, 10:12:56 PM

يمكن الاطلاع على الموضوع المبين في الرابط أدناه، فهو يشرح دور الفجوات في الجداول الزمنية. لقد تم تحيينه الآن ليأخذ في الحسبان القيزد الجديدة التي تم إضافتها مؤخرا

https://lalescu.ro/liviu/fet/forum/index.php?topic=4586.msg25503#msg25503

Is this post for me to read? I find this a bit difficult.

bachiri401 said that he uses max 1 gap per real day with 1 day exception of +1, and he would use max 2 gaps per week for real days.

Benahmed Abdelkrim

Quote from: Liviu Lalescu on July 27, 2020, 09:50:54 PM
Benahmed: I got a suggestion from bachiri401 to add what I thought of, teachers/students max gaps per week for real days. I need to consider it; it is only a plus, not a minus, it won't hurt nobody if I will make it.

OK. as you like. If you see that this may help, then that's fine  :)
thanks!
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