Mode for new file

[agresifgarfiled]

Hi

I want to learn something,i need to schedule university lecture planning and before that FET ask me "Please select mode for new file" Should i select "block pllaning" or ?

My second question is when go add activity  there is a "split" which can 1,2,3,4 and left side "duration".What is it ?It's something lecture break ?

Thank you!

[Liviu Lalescu]

Hello!

The usual mode is "Official". For the other modes you can read their help and decide. There are also example files for all the modes. Maybe your case is "Block planning", but I am not sure.

If you add an activity with split 4 and durations 2+1+1+1, it will be an activity with total duration 5, split into 4 components over the week. The first component will occupy 2 hours in a row, the other a single hour.

[agresifgarfiled]

Hi

Could i ask question,I try to my department just 1st year schedule.And some teacher like "Selim Akyokuş" 3 hours make a single whole.Thats way i said split 3.For intro to programming its works but i try to advanced programming for same person(selim akyokuş) it doesnt work.There are many times,why it doesnt work

Thank you

[Liviu Lalescu]

Hello!

1) You did not split into 3, but you added an activity split into 1 component with duration 3. I am not sure this is what you want.

2) I think you want mode "Official". Please read the help for "Block planning", or convert your file to mode "Official" and generate.

[agresifgarfiled]

Hi sir again me

I continue to schedule the syllabus. But I have a little problem.
"In the 2nd year, I want to assign an "Intro.to Modelling&Optimization" course to our professor "Hakan Tozan" 

What I want is to make the total 3-hour which is be 2+1. I did this, but the lesson has to be on the same day.
At first, I thought this would happen by setting (on activities) min day=1, but he assigned the other part of the lesson to another day. What should I do for this? Should I use the constraints,if I,how. couldn't solve it. Could you help me please?

THANK YOU

[Liviu Lalescu]

Hello,

Please call me Liviu 

I think you need like in the attached file. See the time constraints.

[agresifgarfiled]

hi Liviu:)

I checked file which is fixed you.But i'do same thing, i mean same day  2+1 (Time constraints:Others1,same starting day) but its' give me error.(27 out of 35 activities placed)

Second quesiton is i writed other departments with by Groups.I wanna do same thing other departments.Am i going right?In addition to do this we have a same lecture (same activities) for example "General chemistry".All departments do lecture in same day and same time.its common.How can i do this.

THANK YOU

[Liviu Lalescu]

Hello, agresifgarfiled,

There was an important detail in my file: the min 1 days between 2+1 constraint was deactivated by me (there is a button in the All time constraints dialog). Or you can remove this constraint. It is the same result. When you add the activity 2+1, you can select 0 min days and the min days constraint will not be added.

About a general activity: either add more students sets in an activity, or use a constraint activities same starting time.

[agresifgarfiled]

Hi liviu,

First of all thank a lot your help,i try to improve my schedule , i'm a little frozen.For this University there are 5 departments.And some lecture is "common"(same day,same hour),For example "Intro.to programming".For two department is in same activity,shortly.The activity is the same time and day for both departments,i did but boths  written to same box civil engineering in the Industrial engineer's schedule. If you look the table its like (1st Industrial Engineering, 1st Civil Engineering) for 1st Industrial Engineering Automatic Subgroup.

It seems like the easiest way, but it didn't seem right. I mean, it would be better for an industrial engineer to write only the name of the course and the instructor in his 1st year program. Likewise, it seems to me that it would be better for a computer engineer not to write it in his 1st year program. I'm not sure,I'm trying to think and design the constraints in my mind,but I couldn't. if you can help I would really appreciate it.

Example of what I'm trying to say:https://bit.ly/3qFsMJz
Thank you

[Liviu Lalescu]

Hello,

The output of FET is not very nice, like other timetabling programs, unfortunately. But there are possible tricks. One possibility is like in my attached file; please see the group and two subgroups I added and check the HTML groups timetable for the activity Intro. to programming for the first groups.

So you can define subgroups and make a group "Teams" containing these subgroups.

Edit: I also modified the activity of this subject to contain the group Teams instead of your two groups.

[Liviu Lalescu]

Another possibility is like in the attached file (see the subgroups timetable in HTML).

[agresifgarfiled]

Hi Liviu,I have a little problem.Could you help me.There is a teacher named "Abdussamet SUBAŞI". This teacher has 2 different classes. I want to activate all of these 2 lessons on Wednesday (sameday(each lecture have 2 sprint)). Therefore, I marked all days as "not available" except Wednesday. I just want to for this teacher,all lecture must be one day.I try to max 1 day,ı try to just available wednesday.. but what ever i do,it doesnt work.
But I am getting an error like this.

NOT->Same day classes are: "Programming with MATLAB(CivE_1) " and "Matlab ile Programlama (TR) (INS_1) "
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FET Warning

Time constraint
Minimum number of days between activities
Weight (percentage)=100%
Number of activities=2
Activity with id=34 (2/4 -    Dr.Ögr.Üye. Abdussamet SUBASI - Matlab ile Programlama (TR)  - INS_1)
Activity with id=35 (    2/4 - Dr.Ögr.Üye. Abdussamet SUBASI - Matlab ile Programlama (TR)  - INS_1)
Minimum number of days=1
Consecutive if same day=yes
 cannot be respected because teacher Dr.Ögr.Üye. Abdussamet SUBASI has at most 1 available days from teacher not available, breaks and teacher max days per week. Please lower the weight of this constraint to a value below 100% (it depends on your situation, if 0% is too little, make it 90%, 95% or even 99.75%. Even a large weight should not slow down much the program. A situation where you may need to make it larger than 0% is for instance if you have 5 activities with 4 possible days. You want to spread them 1, 1, 1 and 2, not 2, 2 and 1)

[Darren McDonald]

Here you have two constraints that are preventing the timetable from completing: for activities 34 and 35 you've got set a minimum number of days between those activities to be 1, which will force them to be on separate days. Since the assigned teacher has only one teaching day, this is impossible. You've got the same situation with activities 47 and 48.

You can delete these constraints in Time>Activities>Others (1)>Min days between a set of activities, and when you create activities that are split, remember to set the value of the Min days field to 0 (this is what Liviu had recommended above), which will prevent this sort of error.

[agresifgarfiled]

Thank you a lot,i have a last question,can you answer please
Can I ask something please, I am doing the University program of an engineering faculty. Let's say I am an industrial engineer and I take a compulsory course at 12:00. Since I can take a course in computer engineering, I took an computer engineering course at 12:00 the same,so basically common day and hour. Normally It should not give any errors, but it does. When entering the courses, the program does not ask whether this course is compulsory or computer. I have two overlapping courses and I defined the computer course as industrial engineering, but ultimately the computer engineering course is an elective for me. So when the courses overlap, the program should not fail. But this is because the course is perceived as an industrial engineering course.

Unfortunately, the program perceives the elective courses as compulsory and does not overlap the courses. The program cannot make the program because the courses overlap, but there is no problem when they overlap normally. How can I solve this problem. If the constraint is to be celebrated, which one should I use?

ABOUT WARNING
"The constraint is impossible to respect, because there are the activities with id-s 101 and 107 which conflict one with another, because they have common students sets or teachers or must be not overlapping. The weight of this constraint is 100.0%, so your timetable is impossible. Please correct this constraint."

Thank you