A possible thing with the teachers' Mornings-afternoons behavior (MA mode)

[Liviu Lalescu]

Dear Mornings-Afternoons mode FET users,

I have a report from a user. He had an impossible file, and it turned out he forgot about the Mornings-afternoons behavior of some teachers (it was too restrictive).

I think maybe we need to add in the list of all time constraints a list of the Mornings-afternoons behavior of the teachers. What do you say?

Or maybe move the teachers' Mornings-afternoons behavior from a teacher to a time constraint for each teacher?

[YOUSSEF HOUIET]

Hello my friend,

I think that users are confused about the teacher's behavior feature due to old YouTube videos that explain how to use the program when there were the Moroccan and Algerian versions, as well as the FET MA version. We always try to guide new users to understand that the behavior has been moved from the constraints interface to the teachers' data.

Anyway, I have opened a poll on the subject in a Facebook group and will wait for the results.

As for my opinion, I think moving the teacher's behavior back to constraints would be a step backward in the development of the program.

[MOHAMED AIT ICHOU]

You can leave it as it is now, it is clear to those who use the program normally.

[Liviu Lalescu]

Thank you! Your voice is heard, and I agree with you.

However, even I got problems to understand why a timetable was impossible, because I checked only the All time constraints, forgetting about the teachers' Mornings-afternoons behavior. I don't know how to tell the users to be careful also about the teachers MA behavior when examining the all time constraints list. Maybe a label there: "Please don't forget about teachers' MA behavior constraints", but this will occupy space.

Probably we won't change this. But maybe an advice or something to alert the user...

[Benahmed Abdelkrim]

I think it is better to leave things as they are now, since the vast majority of users are used to entering morning-afternoon behaviors by adding teachers. but despite this I join my voice to Liviu's to add a warning as soon as the user starts adding teachers as explained by Liviu above.

[Liviu Lalescu]

Thank you for your guidance, @YOUSSEF HOUIET , @MOHAMED AIT ICHOU , and @Benahmed Abdelkrim !

Your voice will be listened, and also the voice of the FET MA users. We will keep the MA behavior of teachers in the teachers list. In addition, maybe we will think and find a solution to inform the user also in the all time constraints list dialog, as a doubling of this information, but if we will make a change in this dialog, I will try to listen to the suggestions of the MA mode users.

Benahmed, I was thinking more of a kind of reminder, something which will show up in the time constraints, so that the user will know that some teachers are restricted exclusive or with n days of exception. My only concern was that I had a conversation with a very experienced user, but who's timetable was impossible because he forgot that he added many teachers with exclusive mode.

I can assure you that if we will implement a change, it will be agreed by all the users.

[YOUSSEF HOUIET]

I suggest adding a feature in the Mornings-Afternoons mode like a msgbox or a warning when user click on Data -> Teachers, and when starting the generation process, alerting the user to pay attention to the teachers' behavior.

[Liviu Lalescu]

Thank you! I will write down this suggestion.

[Benahmed Abdelkrim]

I think maybe we need to add in the list of all time constraints a list of the Mornings-afternoons behavior of the teachers. What do you say?

I admit I didn't read your post very well. I think this idea is very good and will help users to detect any possible errors. Let's summarize what can be done: Keep the morning - afternoon behavior as it is now,and add this behavior to the list of all time constraints. In this way the user would be able to detect his errors and correct them.

[Liviu Lalescu]

Thank you, Benahmed! I will add also your words to the list of suggestions and think of it. And if I will find a good idea, I will ask MA mode users here for their opinion, which will not be broken. Meaning that if a user strongly disagrees the idea, even after explanation, it will not be done.

[Benahmed Abdelkrim]

from @Liviu Lalescu
Or maybe move the teachers' Mornings-afternoons behavior from a teacher to a time constraint for each teacher?

Yes, this is also a good idea with a little correction: the morning-afternoon behaviors are kept in the teacher as they are now. This way the user has two options, not one, such as constraint min days between activities.

[Liviu Lalescu]

Indeed, Benahmed!