the maximum room change per week for a teacher or all teachers

Started by abdeljalil elghazoui, September 17, 2019, 05:37:17 PM

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abdeljalil elghazoui

Greetings Livio
> In all the meetings I organized this year
> Users request a spatial restriction that they consider important
> This is the maximum room change per week for a teacher or all teachers
> They also ask for a restriction
> Times are not available for a room for a single teacher
> Is it possible to meet this demand
> I want to inform you
> The Fet program is now adopted in all Moroccan secondary schools
> Departmental engineers facilitated the creation of the database
> It only takes few seconds
> Then we export it to Fet to produce Timetables.
> Then we send the products to the ministry's website for all
> publications.
"لا تهمني مشاكل العالم المهم أن لا أكون جزءا مساهما فيها"

otman hashem

thanks  to Mr Liviu for all your help and your requests, we really need it at  schools with a very few rooms, with all the respect

أحمد الهواري

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Quote from: abdeljalil elghazoui on September 17, 2019, 05:37:17 PM
Greetings Livio
> In all the meetings I organized this year
> Users request a spatial restriction that they consider important
> This is the maximum room change per week for a teacher or all teachers
> They also ask for a restriction
> Times are not available for a room for a single teacher
> Is it possible to meet this demand
> I want to inform you
> The Fet program is now adopted in all Moroccan secondary schools
> Departmental engineers facilitated the creation of the database
> It only takes few seconds
> Then we export it to Fet to produce Timetables.
> Then we send the products to the ministry's website for all
> publications.

Hey there,
I believe that these  room restrictions  mentioned above are  useful and very important for "FET custom Morocco version". Hence, we beseach you, Mr Liviu Lalescu, to add them.
Sincere salutations

Liviu Lalescu

Dear Moroccan users of FET,

Thank you for your feed-back.

1) About teacher(s) max room changes per week:
    a) In FET understanding, changes per week refers to the sum of changes on each day. You might add each room on a separate building and use teacher(s) max building changes per week constraint.
    b) But do you want the changes considered also from a day to the next day? In this case I need to think some more of this. It looks difficult.
    c) Do you know the constraint activities occupy max different rooms? You could add all the activities of teacher T, max different rooms = 2, and over the week teacher T will be in maximum 2 rooms. But he may be in room R1, then in room R2, then in R1, then in R2 again.

2) About room not available for a teacher: I will need to think of this constraint and I hope it is possible. But it will take a while, as I am busy with other works on FET and tired of working much.

Please clarify these above, so I know for sure what you need. Maybe you could give me some pictures to show.


khatou1973

 I 'm sure you can do it for us . You are great. take  care Sir :)

أحمد الهواري

Quote from: Liviu Lalescu on September 19, 2019, 09:01:19 PM
Dear Moroccan users of FET,

Thank you for your feed-back.

1) About teacher(s) max room changes per week:
    a) In FET understanding, changes per week refers to the sum of changes on each day. You might add each room on a separate building and use teacher(s) max building changes per week constraint.
    b) But do you want the changes considered also from a day to the next day? In this case I need to think some more of this. It looks difficult.
    c) Do you know the constraint activities occupy max different rooms? You could add all the activities of teacher T, max different rooms = 2, and over the week teacher T will be in maximum 2 rooms. But he may be in room R1, then in room R2, then in R1, then in R2 again.

2) About room not available for a teacher: I will need to think of this constraint and I hope it is possible. But it will take a while, as I am busy with other works on FET and tired of working much.

Please clarify these above, so I know for sure what you need. Maybe you could give me some pictures to show.
Thank you sir for your quick responsiveness,
I believe that what you suggest is totally true; but as Moroccan users of FET, we need some constraints that achieve the same results in more easier and direct way concerning teacher(s) max room changes per week and about room not available for a teacher.
I hope you will fulfill this mission. May Allah almighty bless you.

Liviu Lalescu

Thank you!

For (2), I will try it.

For (1), I was asking for clarifications, so please explain to me what I have asked, so I understand exactly the problem. It is important so I do not work wrongly on other direction and my work is wasted.

I am currently quite busy and tired, but I will try to help you with this in the future. But please clarify (1).

nachrach111


abdeljalil elghazoui

Quote from: Liviu Lalescu on September 20, 2019, 10:57:55 PM
Thank you!

For (2), I will try it.

For (1), I was asking for clarifications, so please explain to me what I have asked, so I understand exactly the problem. It is important so I do not work wrongly on other direction and my work is wasted.

I am currently quite busy and tired, but I will try to help you with this in the future. But please clarify (1).
Greetings Livio
What we want is as follows
When I chose for the teacher for example ten rooms
I want a restriction that determines the number of changes in these rooms
For example, choose only one per week
Or the teacher works in two or three rooms a week
This limitation must concern either a teacher
Or for all teachers
"لا تهمني مشاكل العالم المهم أن لا أكون جزءا مساهما فيها"

Liviu Lalescu

Hello, Mr. abdeljalil elghazoui,

If for example the teacher works in maximum two rooms per week, can he work in R1, then in R2, then in R1, then in R2 again?

Could you give me a graphical example of an acceptable timetable?

Is it the same as I propose, activities occupy max different rooms, but you only want an easier to add constraint?

أحمد الهواري

Quote from: Liviu Lalescu on September 21, 2019, 03:05:29 PM
Hello, Mr. abdeljalil elghazoui,

If for example the teacher works in maximum two rooms per week, can he work in R1, then in R2, then in R1, then in R2 again?

Could you give me a graphical example of an acceptable timetable?

Is it the same as I propose, activities occupy max different rooms, but you only want an easier to add constraint?


Hey there!
I would like to draw your attention that a room , in our educational system in Morocco, can be used by two or more teachers, which means that the use of a given room depends on the activities of an other teacher or teachers. 

abdeljalil elghazoui

Quote from: Liviu Lalescu on September 21, 2019, 03:05:29 PM
Hello, Mr. abdeljalil elghazoui,

If for example the teacher works in maximum two rooms per week, can he work in R1, then in R2, then in R1, then in R2 again?

Could you give me a graphical example of an acceptable timetable?

Is it the same as I propose, activities occupy max different rooms, but you only want an easier to add constraint?
Hi my friend
I'm sorry for you
For the work of the teachers in the rooms
The teacher can work in the same room the same day
But that can change from day to day
See example in pictures
"لا تهمني مشاكل العالم المهم أن لا أكون جزءا مساهما فيها"

Liviu Lalescu

#13
So the first teacher can work in 2 rooms and the second teacher in 3 rooms, max room changes per day = 0?

For the max room changes per day, why can't you add each room in a separate building, and use max building changes per day/week = 0?

Do you really need the teachers to work in maximum 2 or 3 rooms, or they can work in any number of rooms across the week, only respecting the same room each day? For instance work in 5 rooms in total (over the week) is allowed?

About the other request: teacher+room+time not available. How should we add this in the interface? Enter a teacher, enter a room, select times from a matrix? Or enter a teacher, select some rooms in a list, and select times from a matrix? (in this last case the times apply to all the rooms).

abdeljalil elghazoui

#14
Quote from: Liviu Lalescu on September 24, 2019, 09:11:05 PM
So the first teacher can work in 2 rooms and the second teacher in 3 rooms, max room changes per day = 0?

For the max room changes per day, why can't you add each room in a separate building, and use max building changes per day/week = 0?

Do you really need the teachers to work in maximum 2 or 3 rooms, or they can work in any number of rooms across the week, only respecting the same room each day? For instance work in 5 rooms in total (over the week) is allowed?

About the other request: teacher+room+time not available. How should we add this in the interface? Enter a teacher, enter a room, select times from a matrix? Or enter a teacher, select some rooms in a list, and select times from a matrix? (in this last case the times apply to all the rooms).

For changes of rooms for teachers
In most institutions, a significant proportion of teachers do not change rooms during the week.
This is currently not available in FET
As in the example
and there are those who change from once to six times
"لا تهمني مشاكل العالم المهم أن لا أكون جزءا مساهما فيها"