Custom FET for Algerian schools

[bachiri401]

Good afternoon
I just want to know if there is any development concerning Fet Algeria42 (i.e) the coming version which will be considernig morning and afternoons in the constraints (max/min hours per day)
It is not urgent , I only want to know if is possible.
Thanks greatfully

[Liviu Lalescu]

Not yet, but maybe it is possible. Are you sure it is really useful and not more confusing the users?

[bachiri401]

It is surely useful but (confusing if you don't modify the names for the constraints ; the names should specify if it is a real day or half day) . So the constraints you are going to take care of "adding morning /afternoons" are the ones which deals with half days

Thanks 

[bachiri401]

1)   Max hours daily for a teacher      =====     Max hours daily per real day for a teacher
2)   Max hours daily per half day for a teacher  = ==   ( no need for name modification)

3)   Min hours daily for a teacher === Min hours daily per half day for a teacher 
4)   Min hours daily per real day for a teacher = ==   ( no need for name modification)

_The constraints 1 and 3 need name modification so that they won't confuse users.

_The constraints 2 and 3  are the constraints that should be taken care of ( adding specification for morning or afternoon as both consider half days)

[Benahmed Abdelkrim]

1)   Max hours daily for a teacher      =====     Max hours daily per real day for a teacher
2)   Max hours daily per half day for a teacher  = ==   ( no need for name modification)

3)   Min hours daily for a teacher === Min hours daily per half day for a teacher 
4)   Min hours daily per real day for a teacher = ==   ( no need for name modification)

_The constraints 1 and 3 need name modification so that they won't confuse users.

_The constraints 2 and 3  are the constraints that should be taken care of ( adding specification for morning or afternoon as both consider half days)

for 3);
I think this constraint is clear because in fet version Algerian or Moroccan. the days of fet means half days.
and this specification has been known for a long time by the users.
I do not see any confusion!

for 1);
it's clear, see the screenshot attached below.

[bachiri401]

Yes dear Abdelkarim this is for old users like you and me but for new users it will be very difficult to diferntiate between these constraints until they get aquanted to them

[Benahmed Abdelkrim]

But before using the program you should read the manual.
The program is full of assistance.

[bachiri401]

I  suggested modifing the names of these two constraints to make new users at ease . users of fetAlgeria39 and versions before won't be confused for sure ,
Reading the manual beforing using FET (theory before practice ) this is not usually the case for most users they prefer learning by doing,
I think modifying the names will do more good than harm,
Thank dear Abdelkrim 

[Liviu Lalescu]

I should update the Algeria and Morocco to the latest FET 5.39.0, but this is a titanic task. I think it is best to use "day" for real half days and "real day" for real whole day.

But this is a very difficult task. I will think of it in the future.

[Benahmed Abdelkrim]

... I think it is best to use "day" for real half days and "real day" for real whole day...

Totally agree!

By the way, I wonder if  students(set) could have a constraint like:
Max afternoon per week?

[Liviu Lalescu]

Totally agree!

By the way, I wonder if  students(set) could have a constraint like:
Max afternoon per week?

Yes, they could, of course     . But is this useful? It is not very easy to add this, and then I think I need to add also max mornings per week for students (set).

[Benahmed Abdelkrim]

Of course it is useful, especially in the case of the days consisting of 4 hours in the morning + 4 hours in the afternoon.
this case is encountered in situations of rooms deficient in numbers, and we should expand the time in order to be able to place all the activities.

[Benahmed Abdelkrim]

In this case we have 5 morning and 5 afternoon periods.
We would like students(set) to have a maximum of 4 afternoon periods

[Benahmed Abdelkrim]

here is an example:
the student sets below do not have a fixed room:
3m1 - 2m1 - 2m2 - 2m3 - 2m4 - 2m5.
which has pushed us to extend the school time as described above(morning=4H; afternoon=4H), in order to be able to place their activities in the available space.

[bachiri401]

Yes, they could, of course     . But is this useful? It is not very easy to add this, and then I think I need to add also max mornings per week for students (set).
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Yes, it is very useful to add max afternoons and max mornings for students but max afternoons is the most important because we can make the students study all the mornings but for the afternoons is not likewise.